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Lunexia on Osu! 03/25/2023 1:57 PM
Day 1 Top | Game Top Majority is disabled today. Nolynch is disabled today. (edited)
Lunexia on Osu! pinned a message to this channel. 03/25/2023 1:57 PM
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/25/2023 2:00 PM
@Alive line MA
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You may start discussing! :3
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Rng votes L but agree to disagree
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Rng votes L but agree to disagree
Lunexia on Osu! 03/25/2023 2:01 PM
Don't tie then, loser!
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Anyone who ties votes is maf confirmed
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Ong
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Dead chat xd
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 2:36 PM
I claim PB siding town
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cool game start
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 2:37 PM
Defo not lo
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UwU
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And tots not vet~
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I am actually red vigi
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So uhh who I shoot?
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wasn’t I the red vigi in that one game
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 2:40 PM
I mean... which one?
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red Vs blue with the vip vigi
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vigis
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 2:40 PM
Oh ya I think so
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I was also red
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 2:52 PM
Why do I manage to only be active when others arnt
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Ima vote Atoms because yes
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Rng votes L but agree to disagree
I KNOW
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Was this literally bc of what cait said yesterday???
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Considering even Lune in the rule change said it was stupid lmao
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LilyBottom 🌺
I claim PB siding town
PB?
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ima vote Atoms because yes
Rng vote fan
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Also name spelled wrong Why
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 2:59 PM
Sorry
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Rng is stupid tbh
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:00 PM
I'm just bored waiting for a pot to boil
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I literally woke up 6 minutes ago
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A watched pot doesnt boil
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(Tho i dont think that applies to mafia)
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:01 PM
That's why I am watching the phone forhead
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Lily softing lo on caitlin
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👀
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:02 PM
When did I say Caitlin?
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“Watching the phone” 🤔
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Zamn lily lookout
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Ez target
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Ngekop
“Watching the phone” 🤔
LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:06 PM
XD
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LilyBottom 🌺
That's why I am watching the phone forhead
Im a 3head, sry
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Im jk with that lily but lowkey you just gave me an idea
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:14 PM
@Mafia don't visit little ol' me UwU. I'm just a vulnerable citizen~
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Why did i get pinged? :0
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Oh wait
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Revealing already?
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Lol im behaving awful but tbh also bc there is nothing to read yet hence why i also tab usually during meme phase
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Ping me when the 5th player to speak comes in pls
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Revealing already?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:19 PM
Yes I am arso
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Ngekop
Lol im behaving awful but tbh also bc there is nothing to read yet hence why i also tab usually during meme phase
Yeah thats understandanle
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Ble*
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how paradox 03/25/2023 3:21 PM
hi guiys
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i exist
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didn't realise this game started
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:22 PM
Oh how is in the game
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how paradox
didn't realise this game started
LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:22 PM
Hello how! Role or I shoot
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I have a day shot with your name on it
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how paradox 03/25/2023 3:23 PM
wah
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not again
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:24 PM
Ok how is lock town
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They very Townie
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I asked eqsy and he said how was investigator
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(Real)
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/25/2023 3:33 PM
Dead
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No one pinged me wtf
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how and Mel hi
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Wait so
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Nvm
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who pinged me
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LilyBottom 🌺
@Mafia don't visit little ol' me UwU. I'm just a vulnerable citizen~
oh I found it
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Troll
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how paradox
hi guiys
omg it’s how
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Usually the person i vote during my first hour of the game is maf but cait hasnt spoken
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Gl
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that’s neat
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@Caitlin wake up
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Sorry I was winning a diff game
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Me and Juniper won as mafia W
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Atoms is mafia
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Because Lily only ever votes mafia first
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Real
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good enough for me
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@x³
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Speak
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SPEAK
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Hi cait
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Caitlin
Because Lily only ever votes mafia first
What about me
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I vote mafia first
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 5:26 PM
Hello. I am Alex.
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Are you Lily
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No
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Ngekop and Caitlin and atoms are all mafia gg ezzzzzz!1!1!1! 😎
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Ngekop's vote town first
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Because
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You voted me first
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Hello. I am Alex.
hello alex
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Yeah but i mean the first real vote
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I.e. pain
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Paint*
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dang I guess I’m mafia
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👀
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Paint
hello alex
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 5:29 PM
Sticker
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Hello gamers
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Ngekop
I.e. pain
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Lmaooo
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I love how we’re in a game where the only people i can read are how and cait and both take me almost 2 days to get a read on
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Wait i forgot lily
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Initial vibes
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Lily seems Town
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Atoms seems awkward, keep an eye on.
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I have a feeling Nge is wolf this time around
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Paint/Cait is never on the same team.
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Paint
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This looks gross
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The general context not just the ping
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Not a great fan of Oofers popping in just to leave
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Ngekop
I love how we’re in a game where the only people i can read are how and cait and both take me almost 2 days to get a read on
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:10 PM
I do not know how to read other people's intentions through text. It is quite confusing sometimes.
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I am going to trust Shinra Tensei and vote Paint. If Paint and Cait are not on the same team, then I shall vote one in hopes that the one I vote is Mafia.
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Oh hey hi game started, I'm busy right now but I will read later
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Paint
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hi
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Mel
Not a great fan of Oofers popping in just to leave
oofers?
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thats paint
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Caitlin
Real
unreal
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Paint
good enough for me
damn bandwagoning
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clearly maf
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oh
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thats oofers
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lol
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should probably read everything before responding
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:50 PM
ok Im here
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town or maf?
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:51 PM
why would someone claim maf? town obv
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took too long
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L
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clearly lying
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:51 PM
um ok sir...
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anyway actually
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how u doin
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:52 PM
fine, unless "MaFiAs ReSpOnD LiKe ThAt"
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😂
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:53 PM
well lynching is favorable but no one really claimed
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:53 PM
Sticker
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hello alex
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i mean it's like
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2 hours into the game
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nobody is gonna claim this early
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:54 PM
well atleast everyone should claim citizens ig?
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idk, theres like 6 town players with no abilities, kinda wack (edited)
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btw, editing messages is not allowed
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:54 PM
oh
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my bad
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Deleted User
well atleast everyone should claim citizens ig?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:55 PM
That is not a good idea. At least I think so.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:55 PM
so instead we random vote a afk and learn nothing?
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Deleted User
so instead we random vote a afk and learn nothing?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:56 PM
We would learn something by how the people react to their vote, such as their defenders and the like.
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What is the benefit of claiming all of our power roles?
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We only have four of them.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:56 PM
not really saying everyone should claim power, just saying theres not much to learn
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Deleted User
not really saying everyone should claim power, just saying theres not much to learn
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:57 PM
That has the same effect.
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We have all of the citizens claim, thus the mafia know who the power roles are.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
What is the benefit of claiming all of our power roles?
veteran TrollGod
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:57 PM
If we have everybody claim citizen, then what is the point of that?
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:57 PM
well I claim citizen, have fun
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🤣
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:57 PM
I see. You are deliberately helping the mafia.
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well i'd say people just talk and then
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we get the W
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or the L
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I see. You are deliberately helping the mafia.
Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:58 PM
you wouldnt understand it
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but yeah early game and day 1 is no info just reading off of interaction
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Deleted User
you wouldnt understand it
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:58 PM
I understand the fact that power roles could be useful. Especially if they found a mafia member.
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how paradox 03/25/2023 6:58 PM
hey guys
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i exist again
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hello how
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how paradox 03/25/2023 6:58 PM
hi atom
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 6:58 PM
yes yes correct, everyone should be baiting d1
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town or maf
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how paradox 03/25/2023 6:59 PM
how am i supposed to answer this
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even slower than tactical damn
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Deleted User
yes yes correct, everyone should be baiting d1
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:59 PM
If everybody baits day 1 then there is no point in anybody doing so.
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how paradox 03/25/2023 6:59 PM
if i say imm town then im seen as mafia
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wait i got it
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then say your mafia Clueless
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 6:59 PM
How i think you are cool. I don't think you are mafia.
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how paradox 03/25/2023 6:59 PM
neutral
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clueless
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then say your mafia Clueless
you're*
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Ok wait
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Dont start getting active without me
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how paradox 03/25/2023 7:00 PM
no
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everyone stop talking
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so nge feels lonley
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:00 PM
I am going to go inactive when you start speaking Ngekop.
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If i played during meme phase im playing this game
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how paradox 03/25/2023 7:00 PM
exactly
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lets just stop talking
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except for nge
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starting now
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Vote how so he can be gone and im FR lonely
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Not just feeling like it
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Mel
Lily seems Town
Tf
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Mel
I have a feeling Nge is wolf this time around
Lol
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:01 PM
hacker!!!!
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Mel
Paint/Cait is never on the same team.
Bro wtf is this person saying
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:01 PM
we started with day phase correct?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:02 PM
That is correct.
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how paradox 03/25/2023 7:02 PM
yes
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:03 PM
hmm
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I am going to trust Shinra Tensei and vote Paint. If Paint and Cait are not on the same team, then I shall vote one in hopes that the one I vote is Mafia.
Huh
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how paradox 03/25/2023 7:04 PM
vote nge
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:04 PM
why is Shinra this confident with no info
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how paradox 03/25/2023 7:04 PM
he keeps pinging people
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Ngekop
Vote how so he can be gone and im FR lonely
fr vote how day 1
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how paradox 03/25/2023 7:04 PM
for no reason!!!!!
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fr vote how day 1
how paradox 03/25/2023 7:05 PM
SHUT UP
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anyways
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Deleted User
why is Shinra this confident with no info
Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:05 PM
.
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well I think they are town by aggression
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
What is the benefit of claiming all of our power roles?
Hmm we have 3 ml’s tho
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Ngekop
Hmm we have 3 ml’s tho
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:06 PM
I do not think I have to explain the fact that the Mafia power roles can directly counter act our power roles making them citizens.
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Consort could disable the TI
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Deleted User
why is Shinra this confident with no info
Same
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:07 PM
There could even be no Town Protective. That would just mean we are letting the Power Roles die and having the mafia run rampant.
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Ti should claim frfr
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(i promise they won't get hurt)
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:07 PM
interesting
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I do not think I have to explain the fact that the Mafia power roles can directly counter act our power roles making them citizens.
Yeah ik
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nah jk don't actually
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There can be more than one TI
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So far
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I think there’s at least one
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Ngekop
I think there’s at least one
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:08 PM
There is confirmed to be one.
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at least one
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there could be 2
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3
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4
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In alex/lily/the guy who voted me
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fr if there was 4, kinda OP
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Shinra
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Smth
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:08 PM
so...
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Shinra came in agressive which i like
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I agree paint’s move on voting with cait and pinging atoms is weird
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:09 PM
theres nothing we can learn from day 1, but its better we random lynch
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But i dont see the tr on lily and vote on me when im voting paint especially
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:09 PM
I will vote paint
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Who he is signaling to have a weird stuff right there
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Deleted User
theres nothing we can learn from day 1, but its better we random lynch
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:09 PM
There are numerous things we can learn from day 1.
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Ngekop
In alex/lily/the guy who voted me
Oh paint
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:10 PM
nope, its all pointless
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Idk why did i remove paint from my pool
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:10 PM
Ngekop believes that there is one mafia between me, Lily, and Shinra.
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Remove uh
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Deleted User
nope, its all pointless
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:10 PM
If it was useless, then there would be no point in having a Day 1.
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I want in shinra/alex/paint i think
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Remove lily
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:10 PM
the point of Day 1 is to watch the vote pattern n pray for rnjesus
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its pointless
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Alex trusts shinra for no reason yet votes paint
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When shinra is voting me
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Ans said one in cait/paint
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Ngekop
Alex trusts shinra for no reason yet votes paint
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:11 PM
Shinra said there is a mafia between Paint and Cait.
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well imma go eat, so i'll be back and read this over
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:11 PM
I am voting Paint.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:11 PM
even if a maf was being voted, I dont see why mafs would risk their cred to save it if the maf in question isnt reclaiming power role
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Im just pointing out the stuff i dont like
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:11 PM
unless*
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I came back to see a wagon on me
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Ngekop
Im just pointing out the stuff i dont like
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
Your first sentence is not making sense. I trust Shinra's thought on Paint or Cait. I don't think his vote is correct.
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And paint basically joining cait there, putting 3 votes on atoms and pinging in a trollish way seems like a fake attempt to look like he’s actively encouraging people to talk
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
theres a higher chance a villager is voted anyways
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But in a disingenuous way
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
our job is to ensure its not town power
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good job you failed
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real
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Deleted User
even if a maf was being voted, I dont see why mafs would risk their cred to save it if the maf in question isnt reclaiming power role
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
Mafia can slip up in any way possible.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
they wont
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
If you ignore the entire chat of day 1 and just vote randomly, you are helping Mafia.
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Deleted User
they wont
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:12 PM
You assume that everybody plays perfectly.
19:13
You are wrong.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:13 PM
theres nothing to read here
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Deleted User
our job is to ensure its not town power
Nah
19:13
Our job is to lynch a mafia period
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Deleted User
theres nothing to read here
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:13 PM
The mafia will not share that sentiment. They read the chat and can find the Power Roles.
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Ngekop
I agree paint’s move on voting with cait and pinging atoms is weird
Welcome to day 1
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anyways
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:13 PM
its going to fail with only a 3 out of 13 chance of success
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Deleted User
theres nothing to read here
D1 is important bc voting a mafia or at least getting REALLY CLOSE to voting a mafia
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Gives you lots of reads
19:14
Outside
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:14 PM
ok good for them, they can bait then
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not again
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:14 PM
Town members with your mindset are generally debilitating for the town.
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can people stop saying d1 is useless for once
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:14 PM
I am Citizen now have fun mafs
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Paint
Welcome to day 1
Yeah but i still think you overdid it
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:14 PM
And you are outwardly helping the mafia.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:14 PM
am I? lets find out
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Paint
can people stop saying d1 is useless for once
Finally we agree
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Deleted User
am I? lets find out
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:15 PM
Even if you are a Power Role fake claiming Citizen, you are assisting the mafia.
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thats paint
Hm?
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Ngekop
Finally we agree
you don’t understand
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:15 PM
You are throwing your other three power roles under the bus by making them an easier target.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:15 PM
if I was power role, Id say so like a good little boy
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this happens like every game
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:15 PM
I am citizen
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it’s so annoying
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Deleted User
if I was power role, Id say so like a good little boy
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:15 PM
And you would die night one and waste a Power Role.
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I dont like tactical’s attitude but i lean it from a town perspective which actually makes it annoying
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Bc i agree with the first vibe he gave
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Deleted User
well I claim citizen, have fun
Tip. Don’t claim
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It narrows down who the PRs are if ur legit
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:16 PM
If we were to go with Tactical's mindset. Then he would prefer to be lynched.
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Alex/paint not mvm
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Btw
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Mel
Tip. Don’t claim
Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:16 PM
oh Im not new to this, Im well aware of what Im saying
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even better
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Ngekop
Tf
Are you annoyed? At an early read?
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After shinra’s observations for alex to random sheep them and vote the partner in the pool
19:17
Is nonsense
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:17 PM
alex town btw
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Deleted User
oh Im not new to this, Im well aware of what Im saying
Well carry on then
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Mel
Are you annoyed? At an early read?
Nah
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:17 PM
💤
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Just dont get it
19:17
And threw me off
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Ngekop
Bro wtf is this person saying
Don’t start discrediting me because I’m voting you
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Im not discrediting you for voting me; just want you to explain your reasoning on any of your 3-4 reads/observations
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I’m mel btw
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nge town lean here ngl
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:18 PM
can I get a list of players with no ping
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My logic is with paint/cait is that paint was far too up front regarding cait for them to be aligned. Not fool proof but good enough for early game vote optimisations
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Deleted User
can I get a list of players with no ping
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:19 PM
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
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Ngekop
Just dont get it
Instead of discrediting then. Say as such and ask for clarifications
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Ngekop
Im not discrediting you for voting me; just want you to explain your reasoning on any of your 3-4 reads/observations
Regardless of intent. You were
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:20 PM
Im voting oofers
19:20
watch out for bandwagoners
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Mel
Hm?
I thought you were talking about who you replied to.
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:21 PM
what time does phase end?
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Mel
I’m mel btw
OH WAIT
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Deleted User
what time does phase end?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:21 PM
#ma46-info
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2 days after day start
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Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:21 PM
Shinra/Alex town
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:21 PM
At the bottom it has a timer that updates automatically.
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I DIDNT NOTICE I PROMISE
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Which for 1st day sucks
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Mel
My logic is with paint/cait is that paint was far too up front regarding cait for them to be aligned. Not fool proof but good enough for early game vote optimisations
I agree there and it’s what i lowkey liked from you
19:22
The leans on me and lily tho
19:22
Idgi fr
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I explained the specific paint/cait interaction. Lily doesn’t feel forced as they tend to do early game as a wolf. Do you disagree that early atoms seems slightly off? Can’t put my finger on it therefore I’m not pushing it yet.
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Deleted User
Shinra/Alex town
Ok wait this is awful i think
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I thought you were talking about who you replied to.
I see
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Ngekop
I DIDNT NOTICE I PROMISE
Lmfao
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Ngekop
Ok wait this is awful i think
Deleted User 03/25/2023 7:24 PM
this player is likely to afk anyways, came to say hello, read nothing and left
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No like
19:24
The vote on oofers is fine
19:24
I just dont follow the tr’s
19:24
So far ironically the other person i townlean bc of genuine tone imo is how and he has like 5-10 lines
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Mel
Lmfao
Doesnt mean i will tr you or even close, but changes 100% the way i have to look about it
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Ngekop
The leans on me and lily tho
You’re a strong player, it’s not likely people see u easy as a wolf. So I’m filling that gap, actively watching ur words more than I am the others. Your specific wording I am not the greatest fan of, it feels overly people pleasing. And then the seeming flip on that towards myself when u saw my statements fed into that more
19:26
Exactly
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Especially when im actually not
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And when a random stranger comes in saying that
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Who doesnt know me
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Why did you vote me
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But is familiarized with random MU terminology
19:27
It feels weird af
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Oh thats mel
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Mel
Why did you vote me
I said
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The 3 people i didnt like (assuming the whole mafia team isnt afk)
19:27
Were you/alex/paint
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Yeah jebaited with the name change
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And alex/paint arent teamed
19:27
Imo
19:27
Bc of what i said
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Voting somebody who just stated a scumread on you isnt a great look
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Who is Shinra?
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You either jumped too harshly to conclusions without asking for clarification, or you simply voted out of regalia too
19:29
Both not great
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Caitlin
Who is Shinra?
Mel
19:30
Okay
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I changed the name back dw
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Because I was skimming through the chat and saw some talk about a Shinra lol
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Yo Cait. Thoughts on Nge?
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Neutral
19:31
The one I don't like is you
19:31
Saying me and Paint are never the same team
19:31
Is such a scumtell
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Alright.
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99% of the time when someone calls smth TvS, they're mafia
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It’s an initial read I had, wasnt gonna not say it
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Okay maybe more like 85%
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Mel
It’s an initial read I had, wasnt gonna not say it
It's weird tho
19:32
As like
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TvT and SvS you can spot
19:32
But how would one spot TvS
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After one interaction of all things
19:32
I am stating u aren’t both wolves
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I thought you were calling us specifically
19:32
TvS
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Which is weird imo
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I’m not but I fail to see how calling an early TvS as an initial feel is a scumtel
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>Alex did next push that perspective
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Mel
I’m not but I fail to see how calling an early TvS as an initial feel is a scumtel
First of all because you can't catch onto them
19:33
So saying that is pretty nonsensical
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Alex judged my read wrong
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Secondly to set up two mislynches
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Mel
Alex judged my read wrong
She did say she trusted in it
19:34
Because like if me and Paint are both town
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Then you can just say 'def TvS'
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To first have one of us lynched
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And then the other next
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Mel
I am stating u aren’t both wolves
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:34 PM
The way you worded it made me believe that you had certain information one of them was evil.
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Why did you trust it tho
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:34 PM
He has a hammer.
19:35
That means he is important.
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Fair. Bur once again, I’m saying u both are not both wolves. Due to how flamboyant paint was regarding interacting with u. Specifically regarding the ping. I wouldn’t expect wolf paint to be that ballsy to risk a buddy with a partner like that.
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That's fair
19:36
Once again I misunderstood you
19:36
I do think the argument on Paint
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
That means he is important.
Oh please do not view what a mod says as better than anybody else
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Is kinda bad from what I grasp from it
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It just means I am staff
19:36
Thats it
19:36
Nothing to do with skill at the gane
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Caitlin
I do think the argument on Paint
What specifically
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Mel
Nothing to do with skill at the gane
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:36 PM
Didn't you have a picture that said you were one of the best players in the server for a while?
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From what I see it's because Paint joined the meme wagon
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Didn't you have a picture that said you were one of the best players in the server for a while?
Ahaha yes that was a joke though
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When I see ppl joining meme wagons all the time even if they're the 3rd person
19:37
It's just a lack of creativity
19:37
Not a scum indicator
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Caitlin
From what I see it's because Paint joined the meme wagon
Sorry, what was because they joined the meme wagon
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Mel
Ahaha yes that was a joke though
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:37 PM
I see. I am going to keep my vote on Paint, simply because I do not see anywhere else to put it currently.
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Mel
Sorry, what was because they joined the meme wagon
The suspicion?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/25/2023 7:37 PM
There is no majority or hammer today. So I do not see a reason to take off my vote currently, unless more information comes out.
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I saw smth abt that atleast
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Caitlin
The suspicion?
Oh I thought u were still talking about my read
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Nah the scumread on Paint
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Paint did opportunistically jump onto the wagon but I think it is probably nai
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Mel
Paint did opportunistically jump onto the wagon but I think it is probably nai
Ig
19:39
But like
19:39
It was RVS
19:39
It's not like Atoms was gonna be lynched due to 3 votes lol
19:39
>In fact majority isn't even enabled yet
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They were not
19:40
Sorry
19:41
I’m falling asleep
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It's okay
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Can u repeat what you’re point is
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But yea imo that read is a bit of a bad look on Ngekop
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Mel
Can u repeat what you’re point is
Well
19:41
Ngekop accused Paint for joining that wagon
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When imo it's just NAI
19:41
Being 3rd on a RVS wagon isn't sus
19:41
I originally thought you did that accusation but I got confused
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Caitlin
But yea imo that read is a bit of a bad look on Ngekop
I’d love to have more reason to jump on nge but the whole paint vote thing did give me some pause before I decided to call it nai. I just think nge isn’t filtering intent/nai out and just pushing surface level scummy stuff.
19:42
Ig it could be done for pressuring but I don't see it
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I'll join the wagon
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Caitlin
When imo it's just NAI
Well I call it Nai as well but I did still think it was scummy for like 5 seconds. So I don’t personally see that as a reason to think they’re a wolf. But I do still think they are
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5 seconds is diff then accusing it and then not retracting it tho
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Do you think nge is a strong enough town that should know it’s NAI?
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Imo yes
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Cuz if so it’s very possible they selectively omitted it which I could see
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That being said tho I could see it being done for pressuring / even the best aren't god readers
19:46
But for an early D1 vote it's enough imo xD
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I try and avoid saying anything to do with “it might be pressure” as it gives an out
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Fair
19:47
I shouldn't have but
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Mel
Fair. Bur once again, I’m saying u both are not both wolves. Due to how flamboyant paint was regarding interacting with u. Specifically regarding the ping. I wouldn’t expect wolf paint to be that ballsy to risk a buddy with a partner like that.
~~not trying to argue that I am mafia but~< i wouldn’t care if my partner gets voted out rn :P
19:48
bruh cross fail
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Realistically he is good enough to also think of using that as an excuse himself if he's mafia
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now it just looks dumb
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Paint
~~not trying to argue that I am mafia but~< i wouldn’t care if my partner gets voted out rn :P
I’m not saying u aren’t bussing
19:48
Bussing and buddying
19:48
Very different
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I get what you mean but I'm ofc also biased because I know you're correct xD
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Bussing is a natural instinct for wolves outside of the super experienced. Buddying is normally something less skilled wolves avoid
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Hot take
19:49
Bussing is overrated
19:49
Very much so
19:49
I agree
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Even better take: The best round to bus in is LyLo
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I've seen many mafia teams being able to reach LyLo without ever getting one of them lynched
19:50
To next
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All be lynched back to back
19:51
Anyway I shouldn't help the mafia and I honestly also doubt anyone will ever use my thoughts on it
19:52
But yea atm I like Ngekop and Alex the least (not personally, gamewise)
19:53
Tactical is town I feel
19:53
No mafia would actually suggest random lynching 💀
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And sadly people that post random empty reads are usually town
19:55
Honestly I'd consider pushing How for some nonsensical reason just to reaction test but I'd feel bad
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imagine
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Sadly I gotta do smth in a diff server so I can't talk longer
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pushing how is the best way to make reads fr clueless
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how paradox 03/25/2023 8:51 PM
absolutly nOt
20:51
it nevewr works
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Greetings, gentlemen!
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how paradox 03/25/2023 8:53 PM
hi gappy
20:53
town or mafia
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Oh no i will read tn i promise
21:23
Im busy rn
21:23
Unless cait has a good reason for her vote
21:23
Bye
21:23
Well brb
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Caitlin
Even better take: The best round to bus in is LyLo
The day 1 bus strat
22:01
Maybe even combined with the day 2 bus strat
22:01
Get that towncred quick
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I am going to trust Shinra Tensei and vote Paint. If Paint and Cait are not on the same team, then I shall vote one in hopes that the one I vote is Mafia.
All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote.
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how paradox
town or mafia
mafia
03:47
obviously
03:47
🙄
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READING
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Mel
Voting somebody who just stated a scumread on you isnt a great look
But it wasnt bc of you voting me bro
03:59
I explained the reason, it isnt omgus
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Mel
You either jumped too harshly to conclusions without asking for clarification, or you simply voted out of regalia too
I asked for clarification
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Caitlin
Is such a scumtell
How?
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Caitlin
99% of the time when someone calls smth TvS, they're mafia
Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo
04:03
No offense
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Mel
It’s an initial read I had, wasnt gonna not say it
Btw you still havent clarified the early leans on me and litty
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Caitlin
But how would one spot TvS
If neither is towny but they arent teamed
04:09
But i get what you mean ig
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Mel
I am stating u aren’t both wolves
This is usually what you say tho yeah
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Mel
I’m not but I fail to see how calling an early TvS as an initial feel is a scumtel
Same
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You are looking too deep on it fr
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Lmao
04:12
Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint
04:12
And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town
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Mel
Fair. Bur once again, I’m saying u both are not both wolves. Due to how flamboyant paint was regarding interacting with u. Specifically regarding the ping. I wouldn’t expect wolf paint to be that ballsy to risk a buddy with a partner like that.
I dont get this tho, it was just 3 lines i don’t think it’s that hard to fake that
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Same
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But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you
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Mel didnt suspect anyone there tho
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Oh that thing
04:17
Ok i get it now
04:17
Joining a meme wagon is indeed NAI, but Paint “overdid the meme” imo (idk how to word it)
04:18
Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off
04:18
Enough for me to place a vote on paint and see what happens from there
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What?
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Lmao what
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Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time
04:20
Idk if you are blatantly ignoring that part or you’re just blind
04:20
Ok sorry mb not blind but still like…idk no offense but come on
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RVS??
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Tbh i look at what i say and idgi what part of it gives out i said that was the reason of my vote on paint
04:23
So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi
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I didnt even push it bro
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Lol bye
04:24
Nvm im already voting you
04:24
Idk why i thought i unvoted before
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IT IS NAI BRO BUT THE WHOLE THING AROUND IT FEELS LOWKEY OFF ENOUGH TO PLACE A VOTE AND SEE RXN’S
04:26
There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw
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Well says a lot if you are town coming from the champ rep in this server…
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Caitlin
Bussing is overrated
Depends a lot
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Caitlin
Even better take: The best round to bus in is LyLo
Disagree
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Caitlin
All be lynched back to back
You are contradicting yourself lmao
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Caitlin
But yea atm I like Ngekop and Alex the least (not personally, gamewise)
Amazing
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Caitlin
And sadly people that post random empty reads are usually town
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how paradox
it nevewr works
It does tho
04:30
I got to tr you by doing so just a game ago
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So i confirm what paint said
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The day 1 bus strat
Bussing DAY ONE on the other hand is FR dumb imo
04:31
That’s different
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Get that towncred quick
Getting a mafia lynched d1 is just too good for town
04:32
And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while
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karcin
All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote.
This guy is rekiro, right?
04:33
Anyways
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One second
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Ngekop
This guy is rekiro, right?
Yeah.
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Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
04:35
I MISSED DOING WIDE ASSESSMENTS ON EVERYONE BUT HERE I GOOOO
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Wait now i remember why i didnt do it a while
04:37
First team reads. Alex not teamed with mel or with paint: Not with paint bc if
04:37
Fk i sent it
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Ngekop
First team reads. Alex not teamed with mel or with paint: Not with paint bc if
… she is sheeping mel in the initial read where she could vote me for example, i dont see her going with the partner in the dif alignment read specifically
04:39
And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early
04:45
I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me
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Still kinda why im keeping my vote on cait rn instead of Mel
04:47
Tbh as i keep thinking deeper i realize it doesnt make much sense the reason im voting cait over mel rn but i stand by not both of them being town imo
04:52
Cait: I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said.
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I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think
04:55
Leaning a bit scum if it wasnt clear ^^
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Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him
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Ngekop
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
TehBubblez…still waiting for you my guy…bruh
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Ngekop
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh.
05:03
Tbh imma ping him
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@how paradox keep talking and towntelling if you’re town pls
05:04
Give me a lean :)))
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@x³ @TehBubblez you too tbh come here now
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Ngekop
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
Lily: trollish opening. Literally only here in start and NAI (at least i didnt get immediate scummy vibes as i did before (both of which when it happened she flipped maf oh yeah)…is that a good sign? :p
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Ngekop
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him.
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Damn im sleepy
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Tactical: this guy is the one that one i didnt like, right? Like i see their attitude approaching more a town perspective but i hated it so yeah… leaning town ig
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Oofers
Hello gamers
Oofers: amazing only line
05:12
Well this is even worse case than bubblez
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Also i just noticed atoms fillered hard around this time with a 3 vote meme bw casually forming around him
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Ngekop
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
Alex: tbh this is a good town lean and a good scum lean for the same reasons like idk
05:14
What she’s said is smth i can follow and agree with
05:16
But she is also getting nowhere with those and the most important thing from her (the vote) kinda contradicts her own according logic
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As i said no specific read but i dont team read her with two people that could easily be maf (mel and paint)
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Gappy: amazing opening opening too
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karcin
All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote.
Karcin hmm: i dont agree with the process but this resembles how i remember town!karcin a few games ago
05:20
Was him maf in the game before
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?
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Ngekop
Wall, Cultist of How | Paint Caitlin Atoms TehBubblez how thinks he's how Lily... I guess? Shinra Tensei Ngekop Tactical Oofers Alex, Goddess of Flowers Gappy karcin
Well still uh karcin townlean
05:23
One in oofers/bubblez/gappy/
05:23
Bruh i just realized poke afk
05:25
Bruh im lazy to assess
05:25
Paint but
05:25
I was scum leaning him
05:28
Bc of what i already said + his tr on me as rxn is weird
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And i struggle to see it
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Then again 3:30am lol
05:28
Time to sleep
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
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99% of the time when someone calls smth TvS, they're mafia
What does TvS mean?
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Town vs scum
08:47
An interaction between a townie and a mafia
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089477510963671050 Alex: tbh this is a good town lean and a good scum lean for the same reasons like idk What she’s said is smth i can follow and agree with You can agree on me and Paint 100% being TvS? .-. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089478992865792130 Was him maf in the game before Karcin rolled mafia in the game I hosted, black flag mafia. Ma45 if you wanna check it out
08:49
@Ngekop the posts have over 8k characters so good luck responding
08:49
Either way
08:49
I don't rlly think it's Ngekop anymore
08:50
We always seem to argue like this when we're both town - even including the past game - so I'm inclined to feel he's just town here
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Also this was funny: Ngekop: I love how we’re in a game where the only people i can read are how and cait and both take me almost 2 days to get a read on Also Ngekop: Forms a read on me in less than 2 days the past 2 games and both times is wrong
08:52
Whereas I don't like Alex that much I do wanna trust in the townreads of her Ig
08:52
So my vote will prob go to Bubblez, I wanna see more of him
08:53
And from my limited meta of him he was actually solve'y in ma45, wasn't rlly in ne29 and now used the 'I will read later' msg, and that is his only msg too 💀
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Then again 3:30am lol
Also last read: ngekop is towny af, i would doc him and give him hammer 24/7
09:23
Guys btw I SLEPT 3.5 HOURS :((((
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Well still uh karcin townlean
AND I WAS LITERALLY FALLING ASLEEEP WHILE TYPING LIKE FROM THESE (example, karcin not townread)
09:25
Just very slight lean
09:25
Now let’s read cait’s essay
09:26
Wait out of the isp’ers why bubblez?
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
Ironically i dont think alex is towny but each time im leaning more townlean
09:29
As like what i think the flip is
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
Tbh i can see Alex with Mel as team there (just rr’d that part) but still unlikely idk…
09:34
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From what I see it's because Paint joined the meme wagon
To the reply to this btw i thought you were referring to the cait/paint not teamed read from mel so i pointed out the meme bw had nothing to do with you bc i didnt get why would that be the reason for that read
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@how paradox keep talking and towntelling if you’re town pls
how paradox 03/26/2023 9:39 AM
ok ig
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
“Since when is causing people to create content suspicious?” It isnt on its own but as i said again, it felt he overdid it trying to look towny for EXACTLY that reason
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ok ig
Ty
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Ngekop
Wait out of the isp’ers why bubblez?
I have the most expectations of him 💀
09:41
I went to bed at 4 AM but couldn't sleep till 9
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And paint basically joining cait there, putting 3 votes on atoms and pinging in a trollish way seems like a fake attempt to look like he’s actively encouraging people to talk
Literally in the message you quoted i said that cait zzz
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Ngekop
Guys btw I SLEPT 3.5 HOURS :((((
4.5****
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Ngekop
Ironically i dont think alex is towny but each time im leaning more townlean
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Ig I could see her being too wolfy to be a wolf
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Ig I could see her being too wolfy to be a wolf
Lol i love these
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To the reply to this btw i thought you were referring to the cait/paint not teamed read from mel so i pointed out the meme bw had nothing to do with you bc i didnt get why would that be the reason for that read
Ah ok
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Yea I thought Mel wrote that too at the time
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“Since when is causing people to create content suspicious?” It isnt on its own but as i said again, it felt he overdid it trying to look towny for EXACTLY that reason
Fair
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
“Seemed to only be that ngl” Read better -_-
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I had only skimmed the chat when I talked with Mel lol
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Wasn't that obvious from me not even knowing who wrote the msg
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Caitlin
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
OMGekop LMFAO
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Unless cait has a good reason for her vote
Once again attacking those that scumread you
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089390706319163482 - Karcin All this talk about the importance of Day 1 and Tactical being anti-town, yet, in the end, the reasoning for your vote relies on the empirical data that Cait/Paint are never in the same team, and that's stupid (But I don't think you're stupid, so I'll vote you). There aren't any reads on either of the players behind your vote. I'm not the only person sus of Alex W https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089459565499793430 - Ngekop (all next links are from Ngekop too because he is obsessed with me or something) Ok i know you genuinely believe this but it’s wrong af imo Lol, it's true tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461009707712552 If neither is towny but they arent teamed Then you can suspect it but it's still possible that you misread them .-. So I wouldn't see a townie confidently stating 'def TvS' -> it also was super early D1 so having that much of a read already would be super weird. I also doubt a townie would state it anyway https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461560591786126 You are looking too deep on it fr - Ngekop 2023 about a social deduction game https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089461876066373642 Alex isnt teamed with mel or with paint And since i dont tr either in mel and paint i will lean alex town I disagree with that definitely being the case, for Mel atleast. Alex might see Mel as an authority figure no matter whether she is town or mafia and whether Mel her teammate is, imo. I also just don't see Alex as town. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089462463969370152 But the meme wagon didnt have much to do with you Why does that matter >.> Are people only allowed to accuse scummy stuff now that have to do with them? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463383083974706 Just the way he went about it and pinged everyone mentioned in the conversation for no reason with only filler lines before/after was a bit off Since when is causing people to create content suspicious? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463501577277492 What? RVS = Random Voting Stage, also called memephase https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089463681311576074 Nah it wasnt bc of that on its own and i thought i explained it since the first time Seemed to only be that ngl https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089464552615321630 So that is AT LEAST smth you are just assuming and making that dumb read/vote out of which is stupid bc you are placing it bc of what you think i was thinking…like first thinking of my reasons and then getting a sr out of it…that fr makes no sense idgi I'm just looking at what you're saying and then using that, and you accused Paint for an imo bad reason, so I call it out. That's not thinking of your reasons, that's just reading the chat. Also you voted Paint long before that https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089465383175598130 There is at least one maf in cait/mel btw OMGekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466093619400744 You are contradicting yourself lmao No? Mafia tends to get lynched back to back if it goes well, so it's smart to bus in LyLo in order to break that. There literally isn't a contradiction in that but okay https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089466857347612714 And all the town cred you get from it you will lose it when you dont die after a while Exactly Character cap so sending it rn
The b2b lylo thing now i see
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Btw you still havent clarified the early leans on me and litty
I have
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I dont get this tho, it was just 3 lines i don’t think it’s that hard to fake that
Which you are free to disregard, what I say isn’t law
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
“I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most people wouldn’t”…ok fine i don’t rule it out, but i stand by what i said
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Nah this is bs
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Why? Because we both have a mindset which conflicts with yours?
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Stop discrediting
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It’s really annoying
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
Im GREAT handling two votes i got the hooker lynched and baited mafia night kill target as cit
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What are you talking about ffs
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
And you twisted it by selectively ignoring parts of what i said there making it look like i voted paint for an essentially different reason
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Than i actually did
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Hi mel i will read whatever you’re saying in 5 minutes
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I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me
Ah yes because town simply cannot be convinced that someone may be a wolf. And the specific part about be is stupid
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Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him.
I explained both, read the game
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
Im on phone so im struggling quoting specific stuff but the “So what? I recalled seeing smth sus…” Yeah exactly idt you were prepared to target at me which comes out like not maf perspective (but im dumb since you can easily just be like not recalling specifically who said x thing but do remember they were town). Whatever ignore that part tbh
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Caitlin
I don't rlly think it's Ngekop anymore
Is that due to them reacting awfully to votes as the same as when they were town?
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Oh u explained it right atyrr
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
I want to believe Paint isnt dumb as maf given he’s experienced and Hyan isnt really since he was just town before that game
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089468621748719735 And not with mel bc i dont see her buddying partner like that and teaming up with them this early I could see Alex doing that tho, I know most ppl wouldn't https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089470259922206780 I think one in mel/cait and can be both. Mostly bc i see them as opportunistic and especially cait saying she’ll join the bw (which had ONE vote only lol) for dumb reasons but also mel’s rxn of “oh so you think he did this bc of this…ig i can see that” also felt like “oh hm i can actually get a push on this town get more traction let’s see…” (which actually would make cait possibly town unless they’re both faking that theatre to also get some pressure going for a bw on me I didn't even remember that you wrote that post tho lol .-. Or do you think I made up that then, or was it according to you just a coincidence? And why is it bad that it had just one vote...? I even stated that I only found the reason good enough for an early day 1 vote -> I mainly voted you to pressure you a bit. But I guess you selectively ignore that Last game I got Ngekop on 2 votes he immediatly claimed PR tho so Ig he isn't great with handling 2 votes https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089471826205364284 I dont like the fact you are pushing over smth you are either dumbly misreading or intentionally twisting in the favor of your narrative of why i sr’d Paint when i didn’t even push on him specifically and explained clearly why i voted him which has few to do with what you said. Twisting it? You said what you said, how could I twist that lol. It is a fact that you mentioned that reason against Paint, so now don't go 'that has nothing to do with it, you're twisting my words!' Because we both know, and everyone can check that, that you did give this reason too https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089472700113768480 I hate that (what i just said), but this kinda at least tells me you first sr’d the action without remembering exactly who it came from…but still read fr what i really said about paint there and tell me what you think So what? I recalled seeing smth sus so I pointed it out so then I went to check who it was after it became obvious that it wasn't Mel who I originally thought said it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474023555072030 Atoms: tbh idet he has content worth reading through yet. He was meme’d bw’d tho and after a day he’s still tied top voted without much people caring outside so if he was maf with like paint i’d feel paint would have unvoted by now…? Idk but individually/isolating cant get much content to say smth about him Or Paint and Atoms re-enact Ne29 with Hyan and Bubblez https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089474704261263380 How! Ok so this guy is always town and i felt his tone genuine…HOWever (:p) he hasnt moved from there even when he’s spoken after that. Still tonally leaning town which is it tbh. I'm inclined to agree, I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :< https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089476073923825674 Mel: ok this guy is tricky…i still want to know what made him tr lily that early and sr me too. He can very well be doing what he’s done so far as either alignment tho so… Null but fr null like i’ve tried but i haven’t reached a read on him. How is Mel null now again? You just stated that you had no idea why you voted me above Mel when you scumleaned me and nullread Mel when if that's the case it seems pretty obvious to me lol, so that's just a contradiction Nearing character cap so sending msg
“I rlly rllyyy wanna reaction test him tho :<“ DO IT! You have my blessing
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Reaction tests die when u talk about it
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Caitlin
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089477510963671050 Alex: tbh this is a good town lean and a good scum lean for the same reasons like idk What she’s said is smth i can follow and agree with You can agree on me and Paint 100% being TvS? .-. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089478992865792130 Was him maf in the game before Karcin rolled mafia in the game I hosted, black flag mafia. Ma45 if you wanna check it out
I can follow her agreeing with an authority and sheeping that if she has no clue on her own that early at least to place a vote
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Ngekop
Was him maf in the game before
He****
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He****
Lol
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089477510963671050 Alex: tbh this is a good town lean and a good scum lean for the same reasons like idk What she’s said is smth i can follow and agree with You can agree on me and Paint 100% being TvS? .-. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089478992865792130 Was him maf in the game before Karcin rolled mafia in the game I hosted, black flag mafia. Ma45 if you wanna check it out
I will later rn im tired (honestly i probs wont im lazy)
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Caitlin
@Ngekop the posts have over 8k characters so good luck responding
Ty
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Caitlin
I don't rlly think it's Ngekop anymore
AMAZING
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Caitlin
We always seem to argue like this when we're both town - even including the past game - so I'm inclined to feel he's just town here
Good now lets lynch the Mafia Head
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Also this was funny: Ngekop: I love how we’re in a game where the only people i can read are how and cait and both take me almost 2 days to get a read on Also Ngekop: Forms a read on me in less than 2 days the past 2 games and both times is wrong
HEY CAIT I TR’D YOU HARD LAST GAME BY EOD SO I STAND THERE
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Caitlin
So my vote will prob go to Bubblez, I wanna see more of him
Fair but why bubblez over oofers and gappy
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Yes, i omgus if i dont have much better to say
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Ngekop
Yes, i omgus if i dont have much better to say
Probably don’t, that’s stupid
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Where? Help
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 10:00 AM
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I know, but it throws off while trying to get a read on you
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Which tbh idt i’ve ever achieved d1
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It isnt
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I know, but it throws off while trying to get a read on you
How so?
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Hey chill i love cait im just pointing out she is right when talking about good players having wrong reads when that’s actually her case
10:03
Supporting bc she is the mu champs rep (so like really good) and is having a wrong read
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Nah you are constantly throwing out cheap discredits and it’s painful to read. I’m not saying it’s scummy, just please avoid doing so it’s not fun
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Mel
Ah yes because town simply cannot be convinced that someone may be a wolf. And the specific part about be is stupid
Bruh
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Mel
I explained both, read the game
Sorry
10:04
I still havent seen it tho
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I’m just gonna preface by saying I’m not angry or anything, my words just have a feeling of aggression to them whilr I play
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Mel
Is that due to them reacting awfully to votes as the same as when they were town?
Hey i react unconventionally
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Mel
Lol
Dont make fun of my english :(
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Ngekop
Dont make fun of my english :(
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Mel
Probably don’t, that’s stupid
Chill i wont tunnel and i plan on reading back later
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Do y'all prefer a wall post of responses or me doing 1 response at a time
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Caitlin
Do y'all prefer a wall post of responses or me doing 1 response at a time
I prefer one at a time so I can respond better on mobile
10:08
I will send the first few msges then
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089546340624760862 - Ngekop The mafia never got to kill so you can't know that for sure smh, and I helped lynch the roleblocker too
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089547638690545765 - Ngekop Idk what you're talking about but Hyan isn't even in this game
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ok wait i love the reason for the lily townlean now bc i agree
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Also no I won't reaction test How
10:09
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089548834327244930 - Ngekop Idt we have much of a choice on which mafia we lynch, nor do I care, really
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This is true, fair
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089549207351869531 - Ngekop I don't know Oofers and I don't rlly have high expectations of Gappy, sorry Gappy
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Still wrong tho 💀
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Ngekop
Still wrong tho 💀
Still stands though with ur slapping of me and cait
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So chances are Gappy's response would get my to scumread him no matter his alignment
10:10
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Ok mel look
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Which u seem to be bouncing away from so I’ll look into that soon
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Try to stop looking at what im saying from a scum mindset and try it from a town perspective of two good players interacting in a way leading to voting someone you know is town bc of a reason that is ignoring a part of the content you said/meant they are sr’ing you for
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089549804167778406 - Mel That makes sense, first linked msg is overall good For the second I also wanna add my own perspective: I also just see Ngekop post more and thus I also reply to him more and ofc see more sus things, but no matter what alignment is, the more someone posts the more townie and scummy thing they say 💀
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Mel
How so?
Bc i dont get how a town does that even if i dont particularly disagree with the read
10:12
And it’s also a weird read to throw out as maf
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Ngekop
Try to stop looking at what im saying from a scum mindset and try it from a town perspective of two good players interacting in a way leading to voting someone you know is town bc of a reason that is ignoring a part of the content you said/meant they are sr’ing you for
What does this mean
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Mel
Nah you are constantly throwing out cheap discredits and it’s painful to read. I’m not saying it’s scummy, just please avoid doing so it’s not fun
Brooooo im discrediting her reason bc it is wrong. At the very least she missed stuff i said and i want her to reread and consider it zzz
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Mel
I’m just gonna preface by saying I’m not angry or anything, my words just have a feeling of aggression to them whilr I play
Yeah i do know that part of you
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Caitlin
Do y'all prefer a wall post of responses or me doing 1 response at a time
Im fine with either
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Mel
I prefer one at a time so I can respond better on mobile
True same
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Brooooo im discrediting her reason bc it is wrong. At the very least she missed stuff i said and i want her to reread and consider it zzz
There's a clear difference between saying that and saying Well says a lot if you are town coming from the champ rep in this server…
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089546340624760862 - Ngekop The mafia never got to kill so you can't know that for sure smh, and I helped lynch the roleblocker too
Go to the mafia chat in night actions cait 💀
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I'm not in the mafia chat
10:15
Didn't even see it got posted
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Ngekop
What?
THE TONE OF IT WAS BAD
10:16
(Saying it in the tone of the msg to make it more clear)
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089546340624760862 - Ngekop The mafia never got to kill so you can't know that for sure smh, and I helped lynch the roleblocker too
And i know i even gave you credit for that, i gave a 2 pool and you led on rb, it wasnt singlehandedly by either. I even said in my diary CAITLIN PRO
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And i know i even gave you credit for that, i gave a 2 pool and you led on rb, it wasnt singlehandedly by either. I even said in my diary CAITLIN PRO
And I don't see your diary do I
10:16
But now it just seemed like you were taking all the credit yourself
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But i wasnt even scum casing paint; i literally noticed smth that felt in an off way for me and placed a vote in response…as you said it doesnt mean a big deal that early into d1 but it does cause conflict when people keep either twisting it or getting it twisted
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i literally noticed smth that felt in an off way for me and placed a vote in response…
10:19
I wonder what I did 🤔
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And what I next got voted for
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Again my pr claim was clutch shhhhh (I def didnt just threw it out there to see who would hammer the lynch in a pr claim)
10:19
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089547638690545765 - Ngekop Idk what you're talking about but Hyan isn't even in this game
Your thing of paint and atoms pulling a hyan/bubblez of last game
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Also no I won't reaction test How
Bad
10:20
Then just vote him :D
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Either way, it's early D1
10:21
Idk why you're playing this like ppl can't change their votes or something
10:21
Panicing when you have 2 votes, assuming Paint can't vote Atoms early D1
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089548834327244930 - Ngekop Idt we have much of a choice on which mafia we lynch, nor do I care, really
…i mean in a serious way yeah me neither…but it’d be fun to get b2b games getting the strong role don’t you think?
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089549207351869531 - Ngekop I don't know Oofers and I don't rlly have high expectations of Gappy, sorry Gappy
LMAO
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…i mean in a serious way yeah me neither…but it’d be fun to get b2b games getting the strong role don’t you think?
Fair
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Mel
Still stands though with ur slapping of me and cait
Heyyyyy
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Funnily enough before the GF buff, the strong role could've been the non MH one
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Caitlin
So chances are Gappy's response would get my to scumread him no matter his alignment
Fair
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But now GF and Capo are on the same level atleast
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Mel
Which u seem to be bouncing away from so I’ll look into that soon
How?
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089549804167778406 - Mel That makes sense, first linked msg is overall good For the second I also wanna add my own perspective: I also just see Ngekop post more and thus I also reply to him more and ofc see more sus things, but no matter what alignment is, the more someone posts the more townie and scummy thing they say 💀
Mel see? Caitlin missed it too :p
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089550166874390609 - Ngekop It did feel like a personal attack & discredit
I reaaaaally apologize i didnt mean it that way
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Mel see? Caitlin missed it too :p
I mean I never claimed that I read it
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Ngekop
I reaaaaally apologize i didnt mean it that way
I take your apology
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It was the opposite; you are an amazing player having a particular misread if town
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Caitlin
What does this mean
That he is just saying what i do aligns with a maf reacting to towns voting him
10:26
I see
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It was the opposite; you are an amazing player having a particular misread if town
W
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Caitlin
There's a clear difference between saying that and saying Well says a lot if you are town coming from the champ rep in this server…
Im bad at wording stuff IM SORRY but genuinely didnt mean it that way
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THE TONE OF IT WAS BAD
It was genuine tho
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Nope i know, im letting you know i did
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It was genuine tho
But it was so random
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Talks in a normal voice SCREAMS Talks in a normal voice again
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Lmao fair
10:28
But what threw you off was essentially based on an incomplete piece
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Caitlin
Idk why you're playing this like ppl can't change their votes or something
I know they can and i lowkey want them to do so
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Fair Ig
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But what threw you off was essentially based on an incomplete piece
To this
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I know they can and i lowkey want them to do so
Ok
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Caitlin
Panicing when you have 2 votes, assuming Paint can't vote Atoms early D1
I dont panic with 2 votes…last game i didnt even panic with 4 zzz
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Funnily enough before the GF buff, the strong role could've been the non MH one
What’s the other possibility tho?
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Caporegime wtf is that thing
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Ngekop
I dont panic with 2 votes…last game i didnt even panic with 4 zzz
Let's test it for science
10:31
Caitlin has revealed as the mayor
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Votes Ngekop
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Caporegime wtf is that thing
It can change ppl's roles
10:31
Or well of the mafia members
10:31
To turn them into better roles
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Caitlin
I mean I never claimed that I read it
I didnt either
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And roles you need at the moment
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Caitlin
I take your apology
Yay
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But it was so random
Fair
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Caitlin
Talks in a normal voice SCREAMS Talks in a normal voice again
Lmao…still that’s NAI from me, i do that a lot
10:32
Dont judge me :(
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Dont judge me :(
Lgekop
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Let's test it for science
Lmaoooooo you tested it last game…
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Caitlin has revealed as the mayor
Wait what
10:33
Nvm im dumb
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Mayor can't even roll
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Caitlin
It can change ppl's roles
Wha-
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So if the Capo thinks Framer is useless
10:34
Then boom it turns the Framer into a Consort
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Caitlin
Mayor can't even roll
Yeah ik which is why both the wait what and nvm im dumb
10:34
Lol
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Caitlin
To turn them into better roles
THAT’S SO OP
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It's pretty slow
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Lgekop
Bad
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So it's weaker than you think
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I mean
10:36
If you have a trash combination you can fix it right away
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That’s amazing
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I know what I'd immediatly do if I had a Capo in my team
10:37
Oh
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No more Bubblez
10:37
Hi giles
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Hi
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You have a vote from cait
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Hi Giles
10:37
Mhm
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D1 town claim 👍
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Wanting your slot to react
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Bubblez scumslipped
10:37
True
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I thought he only said one thing
10:37
One thing, a scumslip
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Let me see if my predecessor dug me in a hole
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
How is this a slip
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You're no fun
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It's all fun and games until your neck is on the line
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Giles Corey
Let me see if my predecessor dug me in a hole
Why did you say this tho
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Giles Corey
It's all fun and games until your neck is on the line
@Caitlin and i panic over 2 votes 💀
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Ngekop
Why did you say this tho
Because my predecessor was accused of scumslipping and I was checking?
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(This guy has one 💀)
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Giles Corey
Because my predecessor was accused of scumslipping and I was checking?
If you are town isnt that already impossible fypov?
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Ngekop
If you are town isnt that already impossible fypov?
Well isn't it bad if I'm town and lynched d1 because of an assumed scum slip from the person I was replacing?
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Yeah but idk…it’s waaaaay more common a mafia is twisting what a townie said into a scum slip than an actual town scum slipping
10:42
W/e not important ig
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So what does that have to do with me, since I never accused anyone of slipping
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Giles Corey
So what does that have to do with me, since I never accused anyone of slipping
Your rxn to cait saying that was “bruh did my slot srsly slip” instead of “oh cait might be joking or is mafia going after me :0”
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Ngekop
Your rxn to cait saying that was “bruh did my slot srsly slip” instead of “oh cait might be joking or is mafia going after me :0”
Well it wouldn't be the first time I was told my slot slipped when I was town
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Wait fr
10:44
When did that happen?
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Ma44
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Didnt i play that game
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I was told when I was replacing that my predecessor was evil
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Oh the coven one
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Ye
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Well yeah but we never said they slipped
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Similar enough
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Well gl reading and catching up
10:46
👍
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 10:47 AM
Do not worry if you don't understand anything Giles Corey. I don't either.
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Hi alex
10:48
Amazing first message of the day
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Ignored F
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Ngekop
Ignored F
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 11:01 AM
I am sorry. I got distracted by flowers.
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Ngekop
Your rxn to cait saying that was “bruh did my slot srsly slip” instead of “oh cait might be joking or is mafia going after me :0”
Genuine read?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 12:29 PM
Yo!
12:31
Ima do that thing were I say I'm going to back read and then get bored after like the 3rd message and stop
12:31
I'm going to back read
12:34
God that's a lot of message
12:34
Why dose no one ever play when I'm not doing something else
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LilyBottom 🌺
Yo!
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 12:35 PM
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Click to see original message
LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 12:39 PM
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12:42
Fuck this I am just going to read cats mega posts
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 1:41 PM
Oh fuck
13:41
I forgot to read
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 1:41 PM
People started to dm me
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Deleted User 03/26/2023 1:44 PM
Hello.... did we learn nothing yet?
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Deleted User
Hello.... did we learn nothing yet?
Idk maybe you can read the chat to find out
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Caitlin
Idk maybe you can read the chat to find out
Deleted User 03/26/2023 1:59 PM
I see... then it really is nothing
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What makes lily unvote instead of voting another player, if we dont vote it's rnged
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If you find that many posts nothing 👍
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Deleted User 03/26/2023 2:00 PM
😂
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Deleted User
What makes lily unvote instead of voting another player, if we dont vote it's rnged
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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how paradox 03/26/2023 2:15 PM
bezting you up rn
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Mel
Genuine read?
Yes?
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Alright, I was hoping you were just reaction testing.
14:42
You're pushing people for the sake of pushing. You're not doing any critical thinking.
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I mean
14:42
It isnt even a read bro
14:42
It is a genuine observation
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Don't even try that, you were pushing them for surface level stuff.
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Im not trying anything
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You're falling into a wolf mindset, pushing things that are easy to push.
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Rxn tests can be motivated from genuine feelings/observations and same the other way around
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I don't really care that it wasn't an active read of yours. You were pushing against them
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Mel
You're falling into a wolf mindset, pushing things that are easy to push.
Nah you are calling stuff like that a push
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Are you aware, that people can push people indirectly.
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Mel
Alright, I was hoping you were just reaction testing.
It’s a genuine observation and me pointing it out ofc also looks for a rxn
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Shading, discrediting, pushing without thinking, people pleasing, retaliation to votes on yourself.
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Mel
Are you aware, that people can push people indirectly.
Yes i am but i didnt even
14:45
Do smth close to it
14:46
You are good at scum casing i will give you that
14:46
Bc those things are indeed usually scum behavior
14:46
And you can make a case for each of them on me
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It’s a genuine observation and me pointing it out ofc also looks for a rxn
Nope. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089619855050801305 It's clear it was not based on a reaction test. There is reasonings to your words. You do not push them for reacting badly to a "you scumslipped" and then say "yes?" to when I ask if the read is genuine.
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But the only things i discredited were unfair reasonings
14:47
Im people pleasing half the time
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And the thing with the vote is meaningless d1 start
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Nope. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089619855050801305 It's clear it was not based on a reaction test. There is reasonings to your words. You do not push them for reacting badly to a "you scumslipped" and then say "yes?" to when I ask if the read is genuine.
Ofc it is not based on a rxn test but it isnt pure shade either
14:48
Yes bc i didnt get what you mean
14:48
The observation is genuine
14:48
If you ask if i genuinely sr him for that or even close it’s way different
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I'm not asking whether or not you're scum-reading them.
14:49
In fact it matters very little whether or not you do.
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I know
14:51
But you are “pushing” on me, maybe genuinely bc you’re clearly thinking in there, but motivated/originated on me having a general different approach to the game than you
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I am stating that you were actively pushing at them for something you deemed was scummy or at least not townie. Which I personally deemed very obviously NAI, and I wanted to judge whether or not you were stating that primarily as a reaction test or not. If it wasn't primarily for one, I would start to consider the conclusion that I made alongside Cait (albeit they do not think you're a wolf anymore) had decent standing. If it was primarily for a reaction test, I would disregard this as it would make sense in this situation.
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Ok i will read this later
14:51
Let me catch up first
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No worries
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Ngekop
But you are “pushing” on me, maybe genuinely bc you’re clearly thinking in there, but motivated/originated on me having a general different approach to the game than you
Are you claiming that you believe my push on you is simply due to a misunderstanding on how you play? Or at least you think I am pushing my own playstyle down your throat and calling you wolf for not fitting it
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LilyBottom 🌺
Why dose no one ever play when I'm not doing something else
Lmao
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ima do that thing were I say I'm going to back read and then get bored after like the 3rd message and stop
Sigh
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Mel
I am stating that you were actively pushing at them for something you deemed was scummy or at least not townie. Which I personally deemed very obviously NAI, and I wanted to judge whether or not you were stating that primarily as a reaction test or not. If it wasn't primarily for one, I would start to consider the conclusion that I made alongside Cait (albeit they do not think you're a wolf anymore) had decent standing. If it was primarily for a reaction test, I would disregard this as it would make sense in this situation.
This conclusion being that you're a wolf that is taking "easy" pickings. Not necessarily LHF but a similar type of concept.
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Paint
wp
What
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Omitting stuff I deem you should very well be aware of.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 2:54 PM
Oh look people
14:55
To bad I'm busy again
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Fuck
14:55
Or will be very soon
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Lmfao lily
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What makes lily unvote instead of voting another player, if we dont vote it's rnged
The fact she hasnt read to make a vote and memephase is over
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 2:55 PM
I'm going out for sushi so tis good
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Ok i thought there were messages sorry mel
14:56
Back to you
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LilyBottom 🌺
I'm going out for sushi so tis good
I'm always too nervous to have sushi for some reason so I never have outside of when I made my own in japanese class in grade like 4
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What makes lily unvote instead of voting another player, if we dont vote it's rnged
LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 2:57 PM
My first vote was a random vote, and I haven't read most the day so I am not sure on anything yet
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Mel
I'm always too nervous to have sushi for some reason so I never have outside of when I made my own in japanese class in grade like 4
LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 2:58 PM
I mean sushi grade fish is perfectly safe but I get that
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I am stating that you were actively pushing at them for something you deemed was scummy or at least not townie. Which I personally deemed very obviously NAI, and I wanted to judge whether or not you were stating that primarily as a reaction test or not. If it wasn't primarily for one, I would start to consider the conclusion that I made alongside Cait (albeit they do not think you're a wolf anymore) had decent standing. If it was primarily for a reaction test, I would disregard this as it would make sense in this situation.
I think it felt like smth being able to come from a maf perspective so i call it out and then realize it’s probably nothing…it is weak af ik but you gotta start from something especially when the guy just came in
14:58
So it isnt just done without thinking or purpose
14:59
Ofc rxn is smth you look for but it wasnt the full motivation behind and the thing i called out was true and genuine even if it can be in retrospective weak and meaningless
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean sushi grade fish is perfectly safe but I get that
I am not even sure if its about the fish tbf, just like a mental road block for some reason.
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Mel
I explained the specific paint/cait interaction. Lily doesn’t feel forced as they tend to do early game as a wolf. Do you disagree that early atoms seems slightly off? Can’t put my finger on it therefore I’m not pushing it yet.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 3:00 PM
What a town lean? That's illegal.
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Mel
Are you claiming that you believe my push on you is simply due to a misunderstanding on how you play? Or at least you think I am pushing my own playstyle down your throat and calling you wolf for not fitting it
Im claiming the first one if you are town but also probably biased bc of the second one (not just me being different from you but almost opposite approaches)
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Gonna go make some coffee be back soon
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Ngekop
After shinra’s observations for alex to random sheep them and vote the partner in the pool
LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 3:00 PM
I mean it dose kind of fits her personality.
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Ok well that what time I got
15:01
See yall later ig
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So it isnt just done without thinking or purpose
I'm not saying you were absent minded. I'm specifically saying that I believe you probably should have noticed almost immediately that it was NAI, but you hadn't and you kept chugging on with the same stance.
15:03
You do know why I think this is scummy for you yes?
15:03
If you do, can you repeat it back to me.
15:03
So I can make sure we're on the same page at least, if you're town of course.
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Ngekop
Im claiming the first one if you are town but also probably biased bc of the second one (not just me being different from you but almost opposite approaches)
I'll wait for you to answer the above question before I get to this.
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Im on another game so pls be patient with me rn
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Mel
This conclusion being that you're a wolf that is taking "easy" pickings. Not necessarily LHF but a similar type of concept.
Nah i agree i can seem all over the place but my reads/pushes arent
15:09
Only the observations i get as i keep going
15:09
They can be game-changing, they can be weak af, they can be meaningless
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LilyBottom 🌺
I'm going out for sushi so tis good
Omg i want
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Ngekop
Nah i agree i can seem all over the place but my reads/pushes arent
I'm not saying you're all over the place
15:30
I am saying you appear to be calling out stuff and sticking by that when I feel you're skilled enough to realise that what you're calling out is NAI, or at least not scummy. Which leads to make me believe you're omitting things maliciously. And maliciously omitting information, and sticking by that as you have been leads for that outcome to mean you're a wolf.
15:31
That paired with all the other reasons that would lead to believe you're acting maliciously
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What's NAI?
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Not alignment indicative.
15:33
Meaning the thing has no bearing on whether the person is town or mafia
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Mel
I'm always too nervous to have sushi for some reason so I never have outside of when I made my own in japanese class in grade like 4
Wtf why lol
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Ngekop
Wtf why lol
I've had anxiety issues in the past (which for the most part I have killed) and ordering sushi (or other things like that) which are totally outside of my experience still gets to me
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Mel
Not alignment indicative.
how paradox 03/26/2023 5:54 PM
(call it how at this point)
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Deleted User 03/26/2023 7:08 PM
so... what did we learn?
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honestly nothing
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so... what did we learn?
Giles Corey 03/26/2023 7:44 PM
We learned that you are evil
19:44
You wanna know how?
19:44
You’re going to have to scroll up, read, and find out!
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We learned that you are evil
Deleted User 03/26/2023 7:45 PM
oh nice! amazing work!
19:46
Background sounds; "You are not a clown, you are the entire circus"
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Mel
I am not even sure if its about the fish tbf, just like a mental road block for some reason.
Sad
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how paradox 03/26/2023 7:57 PM
sad
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LilyBottom 🌺
What a town lean? That's illegal.
Huh
19:57
Do you prefer a vote?
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean it dose kind of fits her personality.
Yeah i agree now
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Mel
I'm not saying you were absent minded. I'm specifically saying that I believe you probably should have noticed almost immediately that it was NAI, but you hadn't and you kept chugging on with the same stance.
I did think it was weird at first
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Just that
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And i outed that thought
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That’s it
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Mel
You do know why I think this is scummy for you yes?
I get your point but that just makes me wrong there not maf
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Mel
If you do, can you repeat it back to me.
Like fypov or what i really think happened?
20:01
Fypov ig just can look like lazy shading based on a superficial meaningless thing i tried making into something when you expect as town im better than that
20:02
What i actually believe is you just had this bias bc you already sr’d me before and it keeps being the same type of reasons on my behavior
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how paradox 03/26/2023 8:02 PM
hi nge
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(Or you’re just maf ofc)
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Mel
I'll wait for you to answer the above question before I get to this.
Go
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Mel
I am saying you appear to be calling out stuff and sticking by that when I feel you're skilled enough to realise that what you're calling out is NAI, or at least not scummy. Which leads to make me believe you're omitting things maliciously. And maliciously omitting information, and sticking by that as you have been leads for that outcome to mean you're a wolf.
Ok so you detect that on me just saying that about Giles but when Cait does it with my vote on Paint and i call her out it’s just discrediting? Help there bc i fr don’t get that part
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Mel
That paired with all the other reasons that would lead to believe you're acting maliciously
Sure
20:05
Im not turning around im just busy but i will keep this up tn
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Mel
I've had anxiety issues in the past (which for the most part I have killed) and ordering sushi (or other things like that) which are totally outside of my experience still gets to me
F
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how paradox
(call it how at this point)
How come?
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Gappy
honestly nothing
Have you been reading?
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how paradox
hi nge
Hi how
20:07
How are you?
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Holy motherfuckin pings batnan
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Ngekop
I get your point but that just makes me wrong there not maf
You partially get my point.
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Ngekop
What i actually believe is you just had this bias bc you already sr’d me before and it keeps being the same type of reasons on my behavior
Certainly can be confirmation bias but you haven't given me any reason to not keep the logic.
20:12
Only thing that gave me pause is your retraction from SRing me and Cait
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Mel
Holy motherfuckin pings batnan
Lmfaooooo
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Mel
Only thing that gave me pause is your retraction from SRing me and Cait
I never retracted this wtf
20:13
I said null on you
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how paradox 03/26/2023 8:13 PM
bro pings more than i have bullet pointa on my will to live list
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And that stands
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how paradox 03/26/2023 8:13 PM
💀
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It’s hard to read you especially when you are on me
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Cait did omit specific stuff that was relevant and explicit when she outed that sr on me and voted
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Ngekop
Im claiming the first one if you are town but also probably biased bc of the second one (not just me being different from you but almost opposite approaches)
I've put in mental effort to try and make it so that it's less to do with personal playstyle and more to do with what is scummy and not in a vacuum. I have definitely risen the bar considering your skill level, which I have gathered from experience playing with you and your win/loss percentage (of which I have a rough idea of).
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So unless you think I am overestimating your skill
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I've put in mental effort to try and make it so that it's less to do with personal playstyle and more to do with what is scummy and not in a vacuum. I have definitely risen the bar considering your skill level, which I have gathered from experience playing with you and your win/loss percentage (of which I have a rough idea of).
10/11
20:14
:))))
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I don't believe personal playstyle has much to do with it
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Im proud of this
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Mel
So unless you think I am overestimating your skill
I mean you overestimate my playstyle
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Ngekop
I said null on you
Which is still a retraction from SRing
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Mel
Which is still a retraction from SRing
On you yes
20:15
Not on cait
20:15
I still dont move my scum lean on her
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Ngekop
Ok so you detect that on me just saying that about Giles but when Cait does it with my vote on Paint and i call her out it’s just discrediting? Help there bc i fr don’t get that part
Can you bring context back for this, if I missed or overlooked something please bring it to my attention.
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And as you can see after she said she doesnt think it’s me anymore
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It’s not based purely on omgus
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Ngekop
It’s hard to read you especially when you are on me
Can you explain why this would be hard?
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Mel
Can you bring context back for this, if I missed or overlooked something please bring it to my attention.
Cait’s reason to sr me based on my vote on paint and reason around it
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Overlooked lots of things
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Which you called bs and whatever
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I mean you overestimate my playstyle
I'm not putting you in "the best townies ever" category. Nobody I know is in there, but you're above average at the very least. And you missing key information here leads to make me view it as a discrepancy. Not really just missing it once, its continuous.
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But she didnt call bs, she just overlooked
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Mel
Can you explain why this would be hard?
Reading you? It’s always hard
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Ngekop
I still dont move my scum lean on her
Then I guess I retract the one thing giving me pause on you as wolf?
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Reading someone over me bc there’s an inevitable bias and pressure coming with it whenever you’re trying to determine if you are leaning town or scum
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Ngekop
It’s not based purely on omgus
It started as such for your vote on my slot. Which then expanded into Caits slot when they pushed against you. It's hard not to connect the dots
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Fmpov im town and i know your read/push is wrong
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So i need to determine if that WRONG read is coming from a genuine townie or a mafia
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Ngekop
Overlooked lots of things
What types of things do you feel she overlooked.
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Ngekop
Reading you? It’s always hard
Heh, thanks
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It started as such for your vote on my slot. Which then expanded into Caits slot when they pushed against you. It's hard not to connect the dots
Yes bc i didnt know it was you so i thought it was just this random person outing a sr on me while not even knowing me or how i play or anything
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Right away
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And outing another 2 reads with no explanation either
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I recall you stating the reasons for voting me
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Ngekop
Have you been reading?
not
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reslly
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o cam
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try to ctach up
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if you want
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But you can OMGUS vote and have reasonings as to why at the same time. Both fabricated and genuine reasonings
20:21
I don't want to be fixated on a singular slot the entire day, albeit I love the discussions we're forming.
20:22
And rn this back and forth will very likely just stalemate my reads, or make them stronger. Both of which are useless to the gamestate
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So instead I'll ask you what your reads are outside of myself and cait
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@Ngekop
20:24
I've fixated on you for too long and it'll probably inhibit my reads on others as well as give wolves the freedom to hide between us two conversing
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 8:24 PM
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20:24
I am Alex. Hello.
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Hello Alex
20:25
Do you have reads yet?
20:25
Regardless of substance
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 8:25 PM
What are reads?
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Like who do you think is Town? Who do you think is Mafia?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 8:25 PM
I see.
20:26
I have not read anything yet from today, but I think I can say what I think about a few people.
20:27
I think Nge, Caitlin, Melancholic, are probably town. I do not think Tactical or Giles Corey are town.
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I do not know if I can explain them well enough. Those are just my initial thoughts.
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Can you try and explain them?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 8:31 PM
I think my reasons are bad. I am not good at this type of stuff.
20:32
I think that the three I spoke of are doing their best to make sure the Town is going on the right path. They're discussing their ideas and reads with good reasoning.
20:33
Tactical is helping the mafia by claiming Citizen, which is my main reason, but then they think day 1 is useless, and I think mafia might have that idea of day 1 simply because they don't get to kill first.
20:34
And for Giles I read something earlier that Nge said that makes me think he might be evil. His reaction to his slot slipping as scum makes it seem like it was a possibility, and not something that could not be true.
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Tactical is helping the mafia by claiming Citizen, which is my main reason, but then they think day 1 is useless, and I think mafia might have that idea of day 1 simply because they don't get to kill first.
Giles Corey 03/26/2023 8:34 PM
that's just because they're new. its a common noob play and ive seen it happen 3 times in the 3 months ish ive been here
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i dont think thats indicative of them being scum. in fact i think thats a slight town lean for a noob player
20:35
just from previous experience
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
And for Giles I read something earlier that Nge said that makes me think he might be evil. His reaction to his slot slipping as scum makes it seem like it was a possibility, and not something that could not be true.
Giles Corey 03/26/2023 8:37 PM
i knew what bubblez said before i was able to speak here, i was just confused how that was indicative of a scum slip and was checking to see if i missed any context
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i do think that out of the 3 you think are town, i think 2/3 are actually town at minimum. im not sure which, but i dont think there is a pair among them
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Mel
What types of things do you feel she overlooked.
The fact i literally based it on the feeling/vibe i got from paint faking an attempt to encourage/produce conversation actively with the pings feeling disingenuous and overdone
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Can you look back and find a post of which you stated that was your intent
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I don't personally recall you ever stating that, or at least not in any obvious way. So I must have overlooked it as well
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And ofc it wasnt strong and the vote was encouraging rxn
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One sec
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Bc i did
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I think my reasons are bad. I am not good at this type of stuff.
That's perfectly okay. We all start somewhere. What's not okay is not ever playing
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And i stated it again when calling Cait out on it
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One sec
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Tactical is helping the mafia by claiming Citizen, which is my main reason, but then they think day 1 is useless, and I think mafia might have that idea of day 1 simply because they don't get to kill first.
Why do you think that just because Tactical is playing in a way that benefits Mafia, that they must be mafia themselves.
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Ngekop
And paint basically joining cait there, putting 3 votes on atoms and pinging in a trollish way seems like a fake attempt to look like he’s actively encouraging people to talk
@Mel it is literally in the message Caitlin quoted to vote me lol
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Mel
I'm not putting you in "the best townies ever" category. Nobody I know is in there, but you're above average at the very least. And you missing key information here leads to make me view it as a discrepancy. Not really just missing it once, its continuous.
It isnt tho
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our job is to ensure its not town power
Back to this cuz the context brought me back. This is wrong, don't be stupid. Our job is to kill mafia
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Mel
Then I guess I retract the one thing giving me pause on you as wolf?
Go ahead im still not retracting on her
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Lol
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Mel
It started as such for your vote on my slot. Which then expanded into Caits slot when they pushed against you. It's hard not to connect the dots
The reasons i put the vote first was omgus sure but not the reasons why it stayed
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Ngekop
The reasons i put the vote first was omgus sure but not the reasons why it stayed
I never said it was
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Mel
I recall you stating the reasons for voting me
Yes
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:05 PM
yes
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Gappy
o cam
Cam?
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:05 PM
cam
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Mel
But you can OMGUS vote and have reasonings as to why at the same time. Both fabricated and genuine reasonings
The omgus was just lazy and i said i would read later and would retract and try to engage with cait if i found her reason valid
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Mel
I don't want to be fixated on a singular slot the entire day, albeit I love the discussions we're forming.
Fair
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:06 PM
*omgus
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anyways
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Mel
And rn this back and forth will very likely just stalemate my reads, or make them stronger. Both of which are useless to the gamestate
Like 👍
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Mel
So instead I'll ask you what your reads are outside of myself and cait
I mean i outed them yday night, im down to update in a few hours but so far my vote remains and i want to ask you in exchange what are your thoughts on cait
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Bc i think one in cait/paint is maf
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And you said they arent both mafs
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By my asking, I was inferring your updated reads.
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Implying*(
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Mel
I've fixated on you for too long and it'll probably inhibit my reads on others as well as give wolves the freedom to hide between us two conversing
Literally only us and kinda cait have talked today more than dodging prods and there’s probably a maf there
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I did say they both weren't. I'm not sure my stance on Cait. They started strong, in the middle kinda fell off and at the end they seem fairly strong again.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
What are reads?
Omfg
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I think Nge, Caitlin, Melancholic, are probably town. I do not think Tactical or Giles Corey are town.
Ok this is interesting
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If you didnt elaborate later pls do asap even if you are not confident or think they are weak
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Mel
Can you try and explain them?
Nvm ty mel
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Ngekop
Nvm ty mel
catSalute
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Tactical is helping the mafia by claiming Citizen, which is my main reason, but then they think day 1 is useless, and I think mafia might have that idea of day 1 simply because they don't get to kill first.
Uh
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Oh damn
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
And for Giles I read something earlier that Nge said that makes me think he might be evil. His reaction to his slot slipping as scum makes it seem like it was a possibility, and not something that could not be true.
Oof
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Giles Corey
that's just because they're new. its a common noob play and ive seen it happen 3 times in the 3 months ish ive been here
Yeah
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This
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Do u see
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Giles Corey
i dont think thats indicative of them being scum. in fact i think thats a slight town lean for a noob player
Nah it’s NAI imo
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:12 PM
same
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i wana know what mel has
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to offee
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don't mind me lurking ngl
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Giles Corey
i do think that out of the 3 you think are town, i think 2/3 are actually town at minimum. im not sure which, but i dont think there is a pair among them
Why not? 👀
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how paradox
don't mind me lurking ngl
Casually lurkin' over here
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But I think I found a mafia
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:13 PM
who
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Wait u fucker
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Be patient like me
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:13 PM
peepostare
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Mel
Why do you think that just because Tactical is playing in a way that benefits Mafia, that they must be mafia themselves.
I mean…
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Mel
But I think I found a mafia
LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:14 PM
its me isn't it XwX
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:14 PM
wheres the whisper feature when you need it
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:14 PM
also hello!
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I am here
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/whisper how "fuck you"
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Oh shit
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whisper leak
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:14 PM
didn't work bozo
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Don't expect anything of super high substance
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But anywho
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Waiting on Nge at this point
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:15 PM
fr
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Mel
Back to this cuz the context brought me back. This is wrong, don't be stupid. Our job is to kill mafia
Literally my same reply
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:15 PM
hurry up @Ngekop
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Also what part of the context brought you back to that?
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Ngekop
Also what part of the context brought you back to that?
Ur link
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Dummy
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how paradox
cam
Stop
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:16 PM
omg he's finally reading
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Mel
By my asking, I was inferring your updated reads.
Sure, the main ones havent moved much tho
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If any more team reads content
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:16 PM
hi paint
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my follower
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Or someone who was town or scum lean moving to null like how who is just copying me now smh
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:17 PM
smh
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how paradox
don't mind me lurking ngl
And LURKING how why are you doing this?
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:17 PM
why not
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Mel
But I think I found a mafia
Who?
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:17 PM
clueless
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HE FINALLY READ IT
21:18
TOOOK HIM 5 YEARS
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LilyBottom 🌺
its me isn't it XwX
No way
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Mel
Waiting on Nge at this point
Hi
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Before I respond, I am curious why you're posting nothing of substance here
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:18 PM
crazy
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Mel
Dummy
Hey
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Oh it didn't link
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Paint
hello
Hi paint
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Mel
Before I respond, I am curious why you're posting nothing of substance here
Where?
21:19
Bc im catching up
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:19 PM
omg
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And got 3 pings
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While doing so
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As i said
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There are interesting things there
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:19 PM
bro's in an inf read loop i just realised this 💀
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And i will elaborate on that
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Ngekop
And i will elaborate on that
Please do so
21:19
I will wait once more
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Bruh
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how paradox
bro's in an inf read loop i just realised this 💀
discord mafia
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Tbh mel
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how paradox 03/26/2023 9:20 PM
FR
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I expected you to say smth about the giles read
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Later
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Which one?
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And wanted to wait for that
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Mel
Which one?
Alex’s scum lean on giles
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I honestly don't remember anything about that
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What????
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
And for Giles I read something earlier that Nge said that makes me think he might be evil. His reaction to his slot slipping as scum makes it seem like it was a possibility, and not something that could not be true.
^^^^
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Memory is a fickle thing
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Oh yeah I'm waiting for you.
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What are you reading then
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Mel
Oh yeah I'm waiting for you.
Well
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So was i
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Lmao
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I thought u were referring to a super old one
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Oh nah
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Are you referring to Alex's read itself. Or Giles reaction to it
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Well alex is consistent on following players she has on higher than average standards that she doesnt lean scum
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Mel
Are you referring to Alex's read itself. Or Giles reaction to it
Giles basically repeated the same response
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He did to me
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Is that what ur response was going to be with the "uh" "oop"
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The uh was like
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Asking for a reason
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I don't wanna feed anything to you yet
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I dont agree but idk what to make from this yet
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Mel
I don't wanna feed anything to you yet
Idc tbh
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No, like I care
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I'm keeping my thoughts hidden for a reason.
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But since you haven't addressed what I want to address, it's likely you hadn't seen what I saw
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Tbh i was reading more into
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Alex’s reads
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Than giles’s rxn
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:25 PM
So... whats up y'all
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We’re bwing you
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:25 PM
bwing?
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Did you notice Alex's possible perspective slip
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Bw’ing
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:26 PM
??
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Mel
Did you notice Alex's possible perspective slip
Not really
21:26
Help
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Regarding Tactical
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LilyBottom 🌺
??
Bandwagoning
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:26 PM
oh cool
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:26 PM
as y'all should
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Im sorry but
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Im not seeing what you are seeing
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:27 PM
im going to try back reading again
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Alright thanks
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She is implying tactical was antitown
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Was gauging whether it was a slip or not
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Or if i am looking too deep into nonsensical posting
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Ok can you explain tho pls
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Tactical is helping the mafia by claiming Citizen, which is my main reason, but then they think day 1 is useless, and I think mafia might have that idea of day 1 simply because they don't get to kill first.
This entire post specifically appeared to me as if it were a perspective slip due to how obvious they seem to think they're Town but obviously not intending to have that be the front facing read. As they asid they think they're wolf.
21:29
Hm
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But Alex has a form of "warped" wording compared to most other's so I was leaving room for doubt and if you didn't notice I would mostly disregard
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Idt it’s that
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But ig i see where you’re coming from
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Anyways
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I'll come back to Alex later in this case
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Tbh now im starting to remember why i dont usually engage that much d1
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Mel
This entire post specifically appeared to me as if it were a perspective slip due to how obvious they seem to think they're Town but obviously not intending to have that be the front facing read. As they asid they think they're wolf.
Well not the whole post, just the former section.
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I just got hyped with last game’s d1 comeback
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Ngekop
Tbh now im starting to remember why i dont usually engage that much d1
Oh?
21:31
Too much people
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:31 PM
I feel the same
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Interactions n stuff
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:32 PM
most of my reads are based on votes and flips tbh
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Like i get the d1 thoughts bc we will have way more info and things to work on next days
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But im trying bc d1 gives a lot of reads later in the game
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:32 PM
which might be bad but I am bad at reading in the actual sence
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But the important stuff on d1 you usually dont find it DURING d1 yk
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LilyBottom 🌺
most of my reads are based on votes and flips tbh
I mean tbf
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Those are kinda most telling things later in game
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:33 PM
ya ig, it much harder with more peeps
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But oh well here we are
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@Mel bro im still waiting
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What are your thoughts on our fellow caitlin
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:34 PM
ya, I try to read as things are happaning do to my hard time back reading
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Oh right let me check out caits things
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I mean i like reading n stuff but now that i end catching up
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It’s hard to gather all thoughts i get from there and like organize these things
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Im even feeling like i need to talk less bc im making it easier for mafia to hide and harder for town to participate more on their own
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If it helps idt alex would buddy me into a sr on giles if they were teamed
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Alex is not towny in her own but im struggling finding a team around her bc like
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Karcin, giles for example wouldnt be
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Neither paint i’d think but it’s interesting she still has her vote on him and didnt mention paint in her recent assessment
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@LilyBottom 🌺 we havent been town team ever so far right?
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Actually
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Havent we been like opposite alignments
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Every time?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:41 PM
you and me? I don't think so
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Well
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:43 PM
well I have to say, cait seems to be more active then I have seen them as mafia
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but idk
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LilyBottom 🌺
well I have to say, cait seems to be more active then I have seen them as mafia
Yeah i think same
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But
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Idk like
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That got me thinking she isnt maf with like
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Mel or lily
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But if she is teamed with like idk
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Alex for example
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Like she kinda has to lead/carry with partners that seem less experienced than her but still trying
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Alex for example
And tbh im starting to consider this bc
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She has been outing sr on alex since yesterday
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And even got hyped when karcin also sr’d alex and voted
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Yet she hasnt voted alex yet all day while placing votes on like uh 3 people?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:46 PM
ok well idk
21:46
boyfriend time
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Hf ig
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/26/2023 9:47 PM
ping me if anyone needs\ me
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Mel i saw you typing
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You can’t hide now
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👀
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@Mel
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I have nothing to say
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I was gonna say that you should try irregardless if you're Town but retracted cuz I understood the sentiment
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I mean
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I’ve neen trying lmao
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Well mel
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I dont want to get back to a conversation about reading in us 2
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BUT
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I still want to see your thoughts on cait
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You went back to my link and didnt reply to that and did a quote on tactical
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+ i’ve asked you already for that a while now
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I already answered that
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Somewhat
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Where
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Mel
I did say they both weren't. I'm not sure my stance on Cait. They started strong, in the middle kinda fell off and at the end they seem fairly strong again.
Hm
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Im having a hard time following this
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I agree on the sign of the derivative but idk if i do with the output values on the graph
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Basically i agree that if she started x, then went y, and end z
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y < x,z
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But i dont agree with x = z = strong; i think saying y = fell off is fair
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To me it’s more like started fine, then went weird/fell off, then got a bit back on track but not strong
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By this time i do feel like saying today i dont want to vote lily, how, tactical, karcin, mel, myself
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Would rather not get oofers, giles
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Would rather not get oofers, giles
Tbh move tactical to this group
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Oofers is getting replaced most likely, right?
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The guy said hello and dipped
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Which leaves my pool as
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This entire post specifically appeared to me as if it were a perspective slip due to how obvious they seem to think they're Town but obviously not intending to have that be the front facing read. As they asid they think they're wolf.
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 10:39 PM
I am sorry, but I do not understand this post very well.
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Are you saying that I am typing weird?
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I am sorry.
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I can try to type a different way if that is better, but I do not know how.
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Alex/cait/paint/gappy/atoms
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 10:40 PM
If you're saying that if I am lynched and it could reveal a mafia, then I am fine with that, as long as you are sure that you will find a mafia with my death.
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If it doesn't confirm a mafia, then I would prefer to be alive.
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If im right in there being a maf in cait/mel then i think for sure one in alex/gappy/atoms is too
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From here the first 3 being the ones i think would give the most info
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I am sorry, but I do not understand this post very well.
It seems like you are looking through it already from an informed perspective of Tactical being town even if bad/not helpful i think
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Look i dont have an elaborated scheme of my recent list
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But if you disagree with a spot of someone lmk pls
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From here the first 3 being the ones i think would give the most info
Im down to put pressure on any of the other two tho
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It seems like you are looking through it already from an informed perspective of Tactical being town even if bad/not helpful i think
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 10:52 PM
I still do not understand, I am sorry.
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Well you are saying like
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town!Tactical is playing badly and helping the mafia by claiming cit
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Which looks like pointing out a bad play from a townie
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Rather than saying it is something coming from a mafia
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 10:53 PM
I see. If I knew he was town though, I would not say anything about him.
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I would simply state he is town and that we can trust him.
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I don't know how I would get that information either, there is no night phase.
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I meant yet. We started in day.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I see. If I knew he was town though, I would not say anything about him.
Wdym?
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You would only talk about your partners?
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Mel’s point is you’d be informed mafia knowing he is town
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/26/2023 11:41 PM
I see. He's saying that I am Mafia.
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I am too tired to understand why, but I know he is wrong, so I am not worried.
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I am probably wrong about a lot of things as well, but maybe I was right about something.
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I do not know.
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I am going to sleep.
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3/4 time of d1 and we have a 6 way rng tie!!!
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Yay us!!!
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@Alive line MA please ^^
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Imma sleep gn
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@Alex, Goddess of Flowers Is this your first game?
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Deleted User 03/27/2023 3:10 AM
problem?
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Deleted User
problem?
Is tie
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Deleted User 03/27/2023 3:12 AM
kk nothing important has happened, besides people trying to meta tone n behavior
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Nothing important?
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Deleted User 03/27/2023 3:13 AM
yeah, nothing 😂 someone has to die tho
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waste of time to let this phase last 48 hours
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hi yes
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uh
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ill read the main sus
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no one is main sus
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fuck
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or everyone IS the top pick
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Atoms - I couldn’t read them right now, as they haven’t done anything that triggers the Scum-o-meter’s sensor yet.
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So basically town lean
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kinda
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but not really
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Paint - He haven’t really said anything with content…. Can’t pin point his role either.
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Ngekop - He seems to not notice Mel at first because Mel is being a weeb (Smh…hes just like me frfr…) he seems to also vote on paint. For some what bad reasons but its just me
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Alex - I think shes town fow now. she actively paricipate with other people (Something mafias in D1 dont do commonly) other than that, no content because its D1
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ok im 20 message now
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I will not be covering the rest because they’re my teammates because im bored
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I will do them whenever i got the will tho
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I have made my appearance
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Gappy actually made reads wow
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Ig I underestimated him
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Not saying the reads are great but I'm glad still
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@Alive line MA please ^^
@Ngekop are thou awake again Because I'm here now
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Ngekop
Like she kinda has to lead/carry with partners that seem less experienced than her but still trying
I'd prob be less motivated if I had a weak team than a strong one ngl
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Yet she hasnt voted alex yet all day while placing votes on like uh 3 people?
I sus Alex, I just
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Dont wanna lynch her d1
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And I also feel like the things I find sus are rlly more NAI for Alex
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Which makes it hard
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Mel
This entire post specifically appeared to me as if it were a perspective slip due to how obvious they seem to think they're Town but obviously not intending to have that be the front facing read. As they asid they think they're wolf.
I don't see a slip there ngl
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@Mel ping for you too
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Because like
08:34
EoD is nearing
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Not rlly up to play esp. when I'm on mobile but
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It's a 6-way tie rn
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7-way even
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With most players leaning towards the townie side for once, imo a lynch in Atoms or Giles could work
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But I'm up for others too
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@Alex, Goddess of Flowers Is this your first game?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/27/2023 9:32 AM
No, this is my third game.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 9:40 AM
Ok this is just a hunch.... and anyone is better then no one... ima vote ngekop
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Okay, good, me too.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 9:41 AM
Wow hop on pop much
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Giles Corey 03/27/2023 9:49 AM
My gut tells me Ngekop is town but at the same time it would be informative
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Alright hey everyone (edited)
09:55
I can finally be genuinely active now Les go
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Oofers
Alright hey everyone (edited)
LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:00 AM
Fucking cool pfp!
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Thanks lol
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Wait GAPPY POSTED
10:05
One second
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Deleted User
waste of time to let this phase last 48 hours
Broooooo omfg
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Gappy
So basically town lean
Tf
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Gappy
Atoms - I couldn’t read them right now, as they haven’t done anything that triggers the Scum-o-meter’s sensor yet.
I mean i dont scum lean him but didnt expect that conclusion from this at first idk why
10:08
i couldnt tag oofers in the message search
10:08
so I just skip him
10:08
same with cait
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Gappy
Paint - He haven’t really said anything with content…. Can’t pin point his role either.
He was kinda active at first then went silent…similar case to Atoms actually there but their content at first is way different
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Gappy
Ngekop - He seems to not notice Mel at first because Mel is being a weeb (Smh…hes just like me frfr…) he seems to also vote on paint. For some what bad reasons but its just me
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Gappy
Alex - I think shes town fow now. she actively paricipate with other people (Something mafias in D1 dont do commonly) other than that, no content because its D1
Huh
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Caitlin
Not saying the reads are great but I'm glad still
I mean same but
10:10
Idk what to make of them
10:11
Im glad he tried at least tho ig
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Caitlin
@Ngekop are thou awake again Because I'm here now
Now i am
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Caitlin
I'd prob be less motivated if I had a weak team than a strong one ngl
Yeah but like if you have an inexperienced yet trying team idk
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Caitlin
Dont wanna lynch her d1
Why not?
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Caitlin
And I also feel like the things I find sus are rlly more NAI for Alex
Help here pls
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ok this is just a hunch.... and anyone is better then no one... ima vote ngekop
Bad lily wtf
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Giles Corey
My gut tells me Ngekop is town but at the same time it would be informative
?
10:15
I have 3 votes, 2 of them being from people i expected the least to vote that lmao
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ok this is just a hunch.... and anyone is better then no one... ima vote ngekop
Response to my vote earlier was very much like their town meta tho
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And with how active the game has been I'm unsure whether I rlly want an active player out D1
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Caitlin defending me near eod
10:16
Nvm 4 hours still
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I'd rather not lynch you after our argument
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Ngekop
Yeah but like if you have an inexperienced yet trying team idk
Then maybe
10:16
But
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Thatd require
10:17
Inexperienced yet trying players
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What a nice situation to wake up on
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Caitlin
Inexperienced yet trying players
Lmao
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Ngekop
Help here pls
I'm unsure whether me being sus of Alex is due to her being mafia, or if it's just her being herself
10:17
If that makes sense
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It doesn’t
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If someone always does things I'll find sis
10:18
Sus*
10:18
As either alignment
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Well it kinda does
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Then it's less indicative imo
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:18 AM
I mean I would much rather vote karcin now, becuse he just jumped on out of the blue like that
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Imo that was weird yea
10:18
0 reason given at all
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:18 AM
Seemed like he was wahting to secure a vote
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean I would much rather vote karcin now, becuse he just jumped on out of the blue like that
I had them in my top pool of not wanting to lynch
10:19
Today
10:19
Lol
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:19 AM
f_02Shrug
10:19
Well if we can get to on him thin I will vote third
10:19
Or what the hell
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That was just unexpected
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I can't iso Atoms for some reason
10:20
Annoying
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Search function doesnt work
10:20
It doesnt let me iso Atoms
10:20
It's impossible
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Nvm it does work now
10:21
But yea I still prefer Atoms
10:21
He was only there when there was no content
10:22
But then once stuff started being discussed he just became invisible
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Caitlin
Nvm it does work now
Good
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Caitlin
But yea I still prefer Atoms
He IS in my 5 pool
10:23
@karcin explain why did you vote me that easily when lily did in the first place?
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Ngekop
He IS in my 5 pool
But so are you
10:24
But idk
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Before I start the reading up journey, are there any super major things that have happened that I should know about? (edited)
10:24
If you mean like people claiming then no
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But a game isn't all claims
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Exactly
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So do read the chat or atleast some msges of people
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But like no one is clear and no one has slipped
10:26
I would really like the input from @Mel here
10:27
Pinging the person who has pushed me the most d1 💀
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ok this is just a hunch.... and anyone is better then no one... ima vote ngekop
Genuine?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:28 AM
I wanted to cause some waves. And waves I did cause
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This rn is a 2 vote tie in me/atoms
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:28 AM
Oh it is?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:28 AM
Ok voted Atoms
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There are 3.5 hours til eod still we have time
10:29
I just need people here
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:29 AM
I probably won't be on for most that unfortunately
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The thing i liked about karcin was the message i cant load rn for some reason but the one about the sr on alex. His points elaborated in that post made sense and had original/new content which i liked as opposed to caitlin at the time
10:32
And took the lead actually placing a vote
10:33
And it looked to me like he got there on his own instead of just trying to go over an easy one
10:33
But then he did the exact opposite with his vote on me 💀
10:33
So i hope there’s a least a reason behind
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Ngekop
The thing i liked about karcin was the message i cant load rn for some reason but the one about the sr on alex. His points elaborated in that post made sense and had original/new content which i liked as opposed to caitlin at the time
Idk how much I trust reads on Alex
10:34
It's kinda a slot in which if I had to guess, people could easily come up with a fake read
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Ngekop
But then he did the exact opposite with his vote on me 💀
💀
10:35
Also
10:35
I wanna propose something
10:35
Altho
10:35
I'm prob too late
10:35
But it's an ultimatum of sorts...
10:35
If there are atleast 3 non voting people, we vote one of the abstaining people out tmrw 👀
10:35
Why?
10:36
1. It forces people to vote -> more VCA 2. Abstaining is better for mafia than for town -> if we lynch mafia, they didn't help. If we lynch town, chances are they just let it slide
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Caitlin
Idk how much I trust reads on Alex
I mean i didnt agree with the reason
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:36 AM
Might have thought it would bf an easy push?
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Still dont
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Ngekop
I mean i didnt agree with the reason
But you don't seem to agree on any reason on Alex
10:36
While iirc you townread her for
10:36
No idea why
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But i felt it came from a genuine/original place yk?
10:36
Idk how to explain that
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 10:37 AM
It's a gut feeling?
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Caitlin
While iirc you townread her for
Never did, just said unironically my guess was she is town
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LilyBottom 🌺
It's a gut feeling?
Vibes
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Ngekop
Never did, just said unironically my guess was she is town
That's a townlean at the very least tho .-.
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He isnt in my top town leans but was in the set of people i wanted to vote the least
10:37
Idk if that makes sense
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Caitlin
That's a townlean at the very least tho .-.
But it was bc of team interactions
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You removed like 2 ppl out of 13 .-.
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Like i didnt see her teamed with a set of 2+ people i could see flipping scum as much as her
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Caitlin
You removed like 2 ppl out of 13 .-.
No
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Ngekop
By this time i do feel like saying today i dont want to vote lily, how, tactical, karcin, mel, myself
Here
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Day 1 VC Unof Atoms: 3 - Paint, Caitlin, Lily Ngekop: 2 - Mel, Karcin Paint: 1 - Alex Oofers: 1 - Tactical Caitlin: 1 - Ngekop Alex: 1 - Karcin How: 1 - Giles VC rn if I'm not mistaken
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Caitlin
It's kinda a slot in which if I had to guess, people could easily come up with a fake read
This is true
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Ngekop
No
The team interactions
10:40
For the team possibilities you removed like 2
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Ngekop
Here
And you also didn't even remove Alex from here anyway
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Caitlin
If there are atleast 3 non voting people, we vote one of the abstaining people out tmrw 👀
Uh
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Caitlin
1. It forces people to vote -> more VCA 2. Abstaining is better for mafia than for town -> if we lynch mafia, they didn't help. If we lynch town, chances are they just let it slide
I disagree here, i can see at most one mafia abstaining
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You'd be mistaken
10:41
One of my most recent mafia games, there were 4 abstains D1
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LilyBottom 🌺
Might have thought it would bf an easy push?
Or it couldve aligned with his gut feeling so went with it
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All 4 were evil
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Still a little rushed imo but i want karcin to say smth
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Only the townies and the NK voted
10:41
None of the mafia got any votes that D1
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Caitlin
For the team possibilities you removed like 2
Yeah
10:42
That is not a good reason on its own
10:42
Which is why i said i never really tr’d her
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(When will Ngekop see I mainly suggested it to force people to vote)
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Just if i had to i would GUESS she flips tonw
10:42
Town*
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Caitlin
And you also didn't even remove Alex from here anyway
Yep
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Imo if I guess someone is town they'd prob be a townlean ngl
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Alex is in my 5pool vote
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Yet you seem to constantly defend Alex 🤔
10:43
Altho Ig you also attack stances about not lynching Alex
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Bc as i said the main reason i would guess a town flip is bc i see other people who could be scum not teaming with her
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If you're mafia I think you're def paired with Alex because like
10:43
You're kinda distancing and buddying with her at the same time
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+ it would give fine information
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Caitlin
If you're mafia I think you're def paired with Alex because like
Huh
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Ngekop
Bc as i said the main reason i would guess a town flip is bc i see other people who could be scum not teaming with her
I see
10:44
But then why is Alex in the pool?
10:44
If you think she can't be mafia with your other suspects
10:44
She'd be a pretty bad vote no .-.
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Bc on her own i dont tr her + again her lynch would give info
10:44
My poe was more like
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Lynching for info D1 troll
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Caitlin
Lynching for info D1 troll
Nah
10:45
Lynching someone that could be mafia and if not still gives fine information
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Bad idea imo
10:45
Especially when
10:45
Alex flipping town doesn't rlly give much info 💀
10:46
You also state you think she can't be mafia with people so if like she flips town then you get nothing from it no?
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I mean it kinda does more than most of the people here if they flip town
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I guess
10:47
But Idk I think lynching for info is usually a bad idea
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If there is a clear gap then there's a diff
10:47
But just lynching for the sake of info is a big no no
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Cait is def not teamed with Atoms
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Caitlin
But just lynching for the sake of info is a big no no
Nononono nah
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I'm bussing Atoms (real)
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I said it isnt a bad lynch bc it could very as well be mafia and if not it isnt that bad
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Ngekop
Lynching someone that could be mafia and if not still gives fine information
sus
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Yk ive seen lynches d1 on people like the isp or zeke who self hammered so like THOSE are fr wastes
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I do agree on that
10:49
But I'd only avoid them if we have someone evenly as sus (or maybe a tiny bit less)
10:49
So more of a.. tiebreaker between suspicions Ig lol
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Well yeah
10:50
Ik no one asked
10:51
But my poe was mostly done separating between sets of active/inactive experienced/unexperienced players
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I see
10:51
A team can have anything tho
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I know
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This isn't the Traitors where the host handpicks a variated team
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But like
10:51
Nono listen
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I think how is evil.
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Gut feeling
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Giles Corey
I think how is evil.
How?
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It’s just how they’ve played compared to previous games
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He kinda seems like classic How to me tho
10:53
Maybe a bit more silent
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However it’s clear how isn’t going to be lynched d1 so my current vote is useless
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But he still is just
10:53
Meming constantly
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So with that
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Day 1 VC Unof Atoms: 4 - Paint, Caitlin, Lily, Giles Ngekop: 2 - Mel, Karcin Paint: 1 - Alex Oofers: 1 - Tactical Caitlin: 1 - Ngekop Alex: 1 - Karcin
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that seemed kinda forced
10:53
ngl
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I agree
10:54
Wagon also is forming somewhat quickly
10:54
But could be due to EoD nearing
10:54
@Oofers @x³ @how paradox y'all are voting nobody
10:54
And Atoms & How are being pushed too so
10:54
Get in here
10:54
And be contentful
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@x³ bro you might wanna come in
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Or we lynch one of you 3 now, Vigi shoots the second and then the third is lynched tomorrow... 😳
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Paint
that seemed kinda forced
What did?
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How do we know that we have a vigi
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Giles I assume
10:55
We don't
10:55
I'm just threatening them >.>
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Ngekop
What did?
Giles talking about his vote
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Oh ok
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I mean
10:55
It is random
10:55
The shade on how
10:55
I can see it tho, how is never towny d1
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If I’m going to vote someone I might as well say why
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Even if it isn’t very informative
10:56
With that, if Atoms is going to be lynched D1, they need to speak tf up and give reads
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Ngekop
I can see it tho, how is never towny d1
Gappy is also doing more than How this time ngl
10:56
So I do see what's meant
10:56
Atoms now already at 5 votes sus
10:56
Bandwagoning moment
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Ftr
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Where did Oofers come from
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No majority enabled
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So feel free to keep voting Giles
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Oh it’s not
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Day 1 VC Unof Atoms: 5 - Paint, Caitlin, Lily, Oofers, Giles Ngekop: 2 - Mel, Karcin Paint: 1 - Alex Oofers: 1 - Tactical Caitlin: 1 - Ngekop Alex: 1 - Karcin
10:57
Oofers, why vote Atoms
10:57
(Also Giles avoiding maj is a good look)
10:58
Aaaaaaa
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Caitlin
Oofers, why vote Atoms
Silence
10:58
I know he prob voted because I told him to vote
10:58
But I also had this sliver of hope that
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People would give a reason alongside their vote
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My reason is
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Because now Lily, Oofers and Giles all just jumped aboard
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Human beings are inherently evil
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Human beings are composed of trillions of atoms
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I just woke
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Atoms you are the leading wagon by
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Therefore atoms are evil
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Quite a bit
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And im the highest votr
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Giles Corey
Therefore atoms are evil
amazing logic
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Prove me wrong
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Giles Corey
Therefore atoms are evil
💀
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Giles Corey
Prove me wrong
10 human beings are town this game
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(I voted them because voting How wouldn’t do shit and I slight tr ngekop)
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So being evil does not mean one is scum
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Giles Corey
Therefore atoms are evil
Towniest genuine thought process i have ever seen in my career
11:00
Ok so here’s the thing
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Giles Corey
(I voted them because voting How wouldn’t do shit and I slight tr ngekop)
Lots of ppl were on 1 vote tho
11:00
And you tried voting How for approx. 1 minute or something
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Putting another drop in the pond wouldn’t be helpful
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I hate the fact this was taken as a me vs Atoms just bc a tie on TWO votes with lots of other people having one
11:01
Same
11:01
I also think there's prob a mafia voting Atoms rn
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I am not a strong enough debater to convince others to get on how, nor am I confidence enough in myself to give accurate enough leads to try
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(Which doesn't clear Atoms)
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It doesnt ik
11:01
The maf is lily
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And i still dont even want to say i will save him
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The maf is lily
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Why is it Lily?
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Lemme get some messages
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@Lunexia on Osu! for the sake of preserving the VC, can the current VC be posted in the vote channel? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1089926074651136163 I did make it here as unofficial one already
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Ngekop
And i still dont even want to say i will save him
But like this feels more like a mafia forcing 1v1 tvt especially considering the lack of resistance and people taking a side of not voting me over not voting atoms
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Stuff like that may be useful in future days and if it's posted in the vote channel it won't be forgotten
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Ngekop
But like this feels more like a mafia forcing 1v1 tvt especially considering the lack of resistance and people taking a side of not voting me over not voting atoms
Hm
11:03
That's fair
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Only Lily and Giles rlly did that tho
11:03
And Ig Oofers exists
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…3 people lol
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Like I was only the second vote when it seemed like Karcin was being pushed too
11:04
So it's not like I was trying to somehow force it between you two lol
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Karcin was only pushed by lily
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It could've picked up steam tho
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Hm i mean you didnt force it but you did defend me wanting to go outside and picked atoms specifically which if he is town it can be easily a flip from town to town bw
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And how is putting someone on 2 votes forcing it between them
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Ngekop
Hm i mean you didnt force it but you did defend me wanting to go outside and picked atoms specifically which if he is town it can be easily a flip from town to town bw
So you think I'd be mafia with Karcin then?
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Caitlin
And how is putting someone on 2 votes forcing it between them
Never said it was
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Im confused
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There's someone else non voting too
11:06
Who did I forget
11:06
@Gappy
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Info channel says game started 45 hours ago
11:06
But will end in 2 hours
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Time jumped
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For Europeans
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But not for me :(
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So 2 days later is only 47h
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Ok but
11:07
Days are 48 hours 💀
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Should've been European L
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No thanks
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Altho 1 hour extra would be nice
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anyway so looking at lily's messages right
11:07
like she talked more than me
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“Extra”
11:07
Lmao
11:07
Rn we have one LESS
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I'M LEGITIMATELY PAYING 5 GRANDS TO The First 7 Person To Message Me "GOD DID" Cus I'm Blessed Being A Millionaire
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but like 90% of it is saying he* is going to backread
11:08
but then enver does
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Giles Corey
I'M LEGITIMATELY PAYING 5 GRANDS TO The First 7 Person To Message Me "GOD DID" Cus I'm Blessed Being A Millionaire
Did you get hacked
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and then puts a vote on an afk
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Giles Corey
I'M LEGITIMATELY PAYING 5 GRANDS TO The First 7 Person To Message Me "GOD DID" Cus I'm Blessed Being A Millionaire
GOD DID
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GOD DID
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what the hell is god did
11:08
anyway
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but then enver does
Hm
11:08
That's fair
11:09
And she also was kinda oppurtunistic with jumping on it I feel
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As like
11:09
She was thinking Karcin or Ngekop
11:09
And then voted on Atoms when he became a wagon
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but then enver does
I mean even lily said she wouldnt actually do it probs
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i mean yeah but then he just bandwagoned
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and then puts a vote on an afk
Nah tbf your last 2/3 of content was pure filler
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Why not Ngekop
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like i'm probably one of the easiest lynches
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Or weak shading
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When she stated Ngekop evil lol
11:10
Ngekop — Today at 16:28 This rn is a 2 vote tie in me/atoms Lily... I guess? — Today at 16:28 Oh it is? Ngekop — Today at 16:28 Yes Lily... I guess? — Today at 16:28 Ok voted Atoms
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Caitlin
And then voted on Atoms when he became a wagon
This i didnt like
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>When Lily herself started the Ngekop wagon
11:10
P much
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But i feel starting a wave by placing a vote on me was a good look bc it did get activity and way more engagement
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The new one atleast
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@Oofers how u doin
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Ngekop
But i feel starting a wave by placing a vote on me was a good look bc it did get activity and way more engagement
Eh
11:10
Fair Ig
11:10
It just feels weird
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i'm gonna look at the rest of my wagon
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Caitlin
Why not Ngekop
Bc im town 💀
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To next want to save you
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oofers non existent (even more than me somehow)
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Yea but it's like a complete 180
11:11
The game has been ultra AFK
11:11
So after you just made an accusation, you are now in the top half most contributive
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Caitlin
To next want to save you
You saying she maf with me?
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Ngekop made nearly 50% of all posts
11:12
Which is usually an indication of inactivity if someone can do that
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Ngekop
You saying she maf with me?
Possibly
11:12
Or she just was scared of antagonising you
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I have an idea!
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Caitlin
Ngekop made nearly 50% of all posts
Im so good
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Giles Corey
I was told when I was replacing that my predecessor was evil
i don't have context for this
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Because if you & Atoms are TvT, then Atoms is prob a less scary enemy than you
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but are you saying you are evil?
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Let’s just policy eliminate all inactives!
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Caitlin
Possibly
Lol
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Giles Corey
Let’s just policy eliminate all inactives!
💀
11:12
Bye Oofers and How troll
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i don't have context for this
I said that was in MA44
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Caitlin
Or she just was scared of antagonising you
I mean
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Giles Corey
I said that was in MA44
ah ok
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Why bringing attention to partner like that meaninglessly especially when no one is even thinking of you being mafia
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
11:13
No idea
11:13
She immediatly jumped off the moment someone followed
11:13
💀
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I’m getting Sam PTSD from NE27
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Why so
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Caitlin
Because if you & Atoms are TvT, then Atoms is prob a less scary enemy than you
I mean you get if Atoms is maf at least fmpov everyone in his bw except maybe Paint is at the very least extremely towny, right?
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Because Sam was mafia, and hopped off any wagon of a mafia member that got steam, and still won because no one paid attention
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Caitlin
Bye Oofers and How troll
Ikr
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But then the question is
11:15
'Is Atoms mafia?'
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@how paradox we’re lynching you
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Giles Corey
Because Sam was mafia, and hopped off any wagon of a mafia member that got steam, and still won because no one paid attention
💀
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The answer is: lynch him and we find out
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Caitlin
She immediatly jumped off the moment someone followed
But karcin followed RIGHT way yk
11:15
Away*
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Insert message from a pokemon gym leader about not being allowed to use bikes inside of buildings but this time it's about info lynches
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Ngekop
But karcin followed RIGHT way yk
True
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Hold on I have a genius idea
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So like idk if lily would risk it being too obvious if a bw on me got traction gradually
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Giles Corey
I’m getting Sam PTSD from NE27
Help which game was this
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@Oofers the sheriff came out and checked you and found you sus, what’s your defense
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Ngekop
So like idk if lily would risk it being too obvious if a bw on me got traction gradually
Well Sam just got mentioned
11:16
And I too
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Giles Corey
Because Sam was mafia, and hopped off any wagon of a mafia member that got steam, and still won because no one paid attention
OH
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Ngekop
Help which game was this
You were doctor
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Have seen people do exactly that
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In the past
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You ccd doctor*
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we are just too good giles
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LMAO I WASNT
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Yeah
11:17
I was fake
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Giles Corey
@Oofers the sheriff came out and checked you and found you sus, what’s your defense
My big brain strategy is going to work
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Ne27 has a rlly funny mafia team
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Caitlin
'Is Atoms mafia?'
Well idk that’s why i pinged him too
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Exactly the same as the other game
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Minus me
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Ig Sam/Ngekop/Kirin just often roll mafia together
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Giles Corey
@Oofers the sheriff came out and checked you and found you sus, what’s your defense
And im tracker on sheriff so i confirm they visited you…
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idk giles gives me scum vibes
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Caitlin
Have seen people do exactly that
I mean ik but my point is there is 0 need for lily to do that and it’s really bad in terms of risk/benefits
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idk giles gives me scum vibes
How dare you! I can’t be scum because being scum is wrong, and I’m never wrong!
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it seems like you are fine with lynching anyone, even if town
11:19
or thats what it seems like to me
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Caitlin
Exactly the same as the other game
Fun fact we also bussed kirin d1
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"for info"
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And i too ccd doc
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Ngekop
Fun fact we also bussed kirin d1
Lmao
11:19
Deja vu
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And we too won
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When did I say to lynch people for info
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and paint is uh
11:19
just existing
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Oh and doc got lynched as well
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just existing
Yessir
11:20
This p much is
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they kept their memevote on me
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Lynching for info
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That was a joke and you know it
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idk giles gives me scum vibes
Why?
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I do feel inclined to trust Giles on the wagon tho
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Him unvoting immediatly when it got bigger was a pretty natural swift response
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it seems like you are fine with lynching anyone, even if town
I did get off vibes when he said i would give info even if he tr’d me but tbf he didnt place a vote after saying that
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Giles Corey
My gut tells me Ngekop is town but at the same time it would be informative
here gives that vies
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Idk if that’s smth
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Oh yea and that too
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here gives that vies
YEAH EXACTLY
11:21
Same
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Giles: I don't lynch for info
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even if you didn't vote them
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Also Giles: But vote one of these 2 for info
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here gives that vies
Yeah but I didn’t vote Nge or push for a lynch there
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Caitlin
Him unvoting immediatly when it got bigger was a pretty natural swift response
True
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I was saying if he got lynched by other people it would provide information
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Tfw earlier I said I wanted to vote Atoms or Giles
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And now I kinda
11:23
Think both are town
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Why are you voting atoms then :0
11:23
Still voting*
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I just didn't change my vote yet
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Because Idk who else to vote yet
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And a 5 vote wagon gives a more dramatic effect
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You can unvote and vote someone later yk
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The sheriff found Oofers as sus, remember
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Ngekop
You can unvote and vote someone later yk
I hate unvoting
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Oofers has yet to defend himself so we should push him to get him to defend himself from the sheriff
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And I much prefer ppl having as much votes as possible
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Giles Corey
Oofers has yet to defend himself so we should push him to get him to defend himself from the sheriff
True
11:24
I just dk
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Caitlin
I hate unvoting
Omg
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How big the chance of that is
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Yet you did it for me
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Last game
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Ty <3
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But that wasn't early into the day prob
11:24
late into the day*
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It wasnt that close to eod but not far either
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Caitlin
How big the chance of that is
And like
11:25
Oofers could've voted Atoms because they're mafia and Atoms is town but
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There's also a glaringly obvious reason why Oofers would do it as either alignment
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So we'd just be flipping a coin that has only 25% chance of giving us what we want
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Caitlin
There's also a glaringly obvious reason why Oofers would do it as either alignment
Which is…?
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Sheriff results aren’t a coinflip Shrug
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godfather be like
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Ngekop
Which is…?
He was asked to vote
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5 secs later
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Voted the person that was being voted by everyone else
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It's the lazy way out really
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godfather be like
Not relevant if they appear as suspicious
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Then we know they can’t be godfather
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Unless they are GF and framed/hexed
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Oh he wasnt asked specifically
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He was actually
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I told him to vote
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And then he voted
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Yeah but why would/can framer frame their own GF
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Giles Corey
Yeah but why would/can framer frame their own GF
No idea why they would
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But they can in DM
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I think I'ma return to voting Karcin
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Ngekop is right that my theory on Lily only makes sense when she's with Ngekop
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You never voted karcin before
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(I never did but it was considered)
11:29
Yea
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Caitlin
Ngekop is right that my theory on Lily only makes sense when she's with Ngekop
But she also
11:29
Doesn't make sense in a team with him
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So that kinda nullifies the theory
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Also why is your vote still on me
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Bc i still wanted it there
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Still want to lowkey
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If im being honest with you
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imma put my vote out there
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I feel like atp I've been pretty townie but okay
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cuz i'm going be back in 30 mins
11:30
get some food
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cuz i'm going be back in 30 mins
Okay
11:31
Ftr EoD is in 30 mins
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I hate to say it but
11:31
i thought its in
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If you're PR you may want to claim
11:31
Sorry
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Mistook an hour
11:31
Lol
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Caitlin
Mistook an hour
Not ANOTHER hour
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I claim town
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Another hour less
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...
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@ Lune EoD was 31 mins ago
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Jk
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Cait here’s the thing
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If atoms is indeed town
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I can see you setting up and trying to control a convenient/fine lynch rn…the good thing from you imo is trying to oppose a bw on me and flip it but it cancels out if you just flip to another townie
11:33
Also like
11:33
You saying if alex flips mafia then im mafia too
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Ngekop
I can see you setting up and trying to control a convenient/fine lynch rn…the good thing from you imo is trying to oppose a bw on me and flip it but it cancels out if you just flip to another townie
Why would I need to control it tho
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For example
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I could've joined Lily on Karcin, I could've voted you
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When im more willing to lynch her today than you are 🤣
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I just
11:34
Disagree on that
11:34
You keep putting her in your lynch pool
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But when it's about Alex
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You seem very anti lynching her
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You havent voted her all day
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And also keep mentioning she can't be in a team
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Ngekop
You havent voted her all day
And I have explained one
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Nah you tried to discredit her in my pool
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You're the one moving weirdly around Alex
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I just feel like it's weird how you claim you are 'in favor of' lynching Alex
11:35
But don't actually
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hm i think alex is nai rn, but like
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Seem up for it at all
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Saying lynching for info is dumb which is fair
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could be new player
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But still
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could be using new player to deflect shade
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You also said you dont want to vote her d1
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Ngekop
You also said you dont want to vote her d1
Yes
11:36
But for you it's the opposite
11:36
So I think you two could be SvS
11:36
Constantly distancing but never actually putting her at risk
11:36
Kinda what was mentioned about Sam
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Caitlin
You're the one moving weirdly around Alex
Not really and also like
11:37
If alex is town you can still be mafia with an agenda
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You arent scumtelling but you are clearly a good player and it’s just the feeling
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Ngekop
You arent scumtelling but you are clearly a good player and it’s just the feeling
So I'm being fear scumleaned 👍
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+ my vote on you gained no push
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Bad reason for a vote
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Caitlin
So I'm being fear scumleaned 👍
Nah
11:40
You fell off mid-day and what you have said today is what i said can be easily still maf flipping to town
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So am I bussing Karcin rn then
11:40
Or do you wanna say you are mafia with me
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Lol
11:40
Because you're claiming I'm flipping the lynch onto a townie
11:40
When the only other discussed names were you and the person I'm voting rn
11:40
I mean
11:41
Me/karcin/atoms can easily be town
11:41
All 3
11:41
Yk
11:41
You said it yourself this is a 13p setup
11:41
Tbf
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But why is me changing it to Atoms a scumtell then..?
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Last time i didnt tr you until you unvoted on me
11:41
Fearing it would hammer
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Now Giles did the same
11:41
And I also don't recall you
11:41
Townreading Giles now ngl
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Caitlin
But why is me changing it to Atoms a scumtell then..?
Not saying it’s a scumtell
11:42
Im saying it’s not smth that will make me tr you when he can easily be town
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And it's also weird to say I did it mid-day when
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Bc you did
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Early on you voted me
11:42
Mid I replied to you
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And only after that I became inactive
11:42
So that's just wrong
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Caitlin
Early on you voted me
The early vote was not serious and just bc of the tier rule change
11:43
Tie*
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Imo the actual vote on me after that was still early
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Caitlin
Mid I replied to you
Here is why i voted you lmfao
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There were like 150 posts at that point
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Then esrly
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Early*
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Early-mid
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No but you get why
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Kinda considering just voting you again
11:44
Because imo you're not rlly
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Your actions/flips
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Making sense at all
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On votes
11:44
Arent necessarily towny fmpov?
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But it's more like
11:44
Could be mafia
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Nah it’s like
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Yet you're using the fact I flipped it onto Atoms - who we don't even know the role of - to somehow discredit everything else I did
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For earlier stuff
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And you're also just ignoring the whole argument earlier
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I got that lean
11:45
Of you being scum
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You also stated back then that me calling it out was fine
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My point is what you said of “im p towny atp” isnt smth that would actually make you town necessarily
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And it also was just a pressure vote too
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So I also still think that still suspecting me for that is just
11:45
Super weird
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Why are you getting defensive over it?
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And you also claim you don't panic over 2 votes yet you sure are sus of the 2nd voter on you originally troll
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Ngekop
Why are you getting defensive over it?
I just dt you're town
11:46
A townie wouldn't think this way
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Im not saying
11:46
Then vote me
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I already did lol
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Ngekop
Im not saying
“All town bw cait”
11:46
Kk
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I'd be fine with Lily or Karcin too but you're being more scummy than them atp
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If im maf i will just take the tr from you
11:47
And pocket you and lead to a town d1
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Caitlin
I'd be fine with Lily or Karcin too but you're being more scummy than them atp
Lmao
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You could be accused for making a 180 tho then
11:49
+ how is this 180
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You're claiming you would 180 on me
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I never said i tr’d you
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And I'm saying you wouldn't
11:49
I'm not saying you did
11:49
But you used that as defense
11:49
And I said that's just wrong
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I never unvoted
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Caitlin
But you used that as defense
Im not
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I'm not saying you did??
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If im maf i will just take the tr from you And pocket you and lead to a town d1
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Im saying your eod
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This implies you are claiming you wouldn't keep pushing me
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Can easily come from a scum agenda
11:50
So far
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Caitlin
This implies you are claiming you wouldn't keep pushing me
Fine
11:50
That’s probs dumb
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Just ignore the accusation on your defense 👍
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But i wouldnt keep the push
11:50
And unnecessarily bring attention back to myself
11:50
With 70 minutes to go imo
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Ngekop
Can easily come from a scum agenda
And whereas Ig that's fair that means you still only are OMGUSing me over a pressure vote
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Not really
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Ngekop
But i wouldnt keep the push
I just explained you would
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I could vote karcin if i go there
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Ngekop
Not really
Yes tho?
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No I don't wanna vote them anymore
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Lmaooooo
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You & them are never teamed I decided
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Caitlin
You & them are never teamed I decided
Yeah
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So Lily would be more save
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I just prefer you no matter Karcin rn
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Nah im not voting lily
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And I'm not changing my vote on you either so Idrc
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“Idrc”
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Why would I care if you vote Lily?
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You get you are claiming to spite vote here
11:52
I'm voting mafia
11:52
Nah
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If you vote Lily it'd just be to maybe seem townie now
11:53
If you don't it's also a wifom
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You are voting me bc you dont like me sr’ing you for reasons you dislike even when you agreed it’s fair
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'Maybe she changes her mind if I keep doing what I do...' (because that somehow usually works)
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And im not even pushing
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Ngekop
You are voting me bc you dont like me sr’ing you for reasons you dislike even when you agreed it’s fair
I don't agree it's fair tho?
11:53
I agree that some things I did were NAI
11:53
I don't agree that I'm sus
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I mean
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Ngekop
And im not even pushing
He says, while voting me troll
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When i started voting you yday
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And we talked in that like midnight/morning
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You unvoted me
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Then I didn't agree either that it was voteworthy
11:54
Yes
11:54
But not because I agreed???
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And that’s where my sr originated from
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Nah you said “idt it’s ngekop anymore”
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You literally already were scumleaning before me that tho
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Ngekop
Nah you said “idt it’s ngekop anymore”
Yea?
11:54
That's not agreeing on a scumread on me?
11:54
Are you high
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No i know
11:54
But my point
11:55
Is you were fine not sr’ing me bc of my reasons sr’ing you in the first place
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Day 1 VC Unof Atoms: 4 - Paint, Lily, Oofers, Giles Ngekop: 3 - Mel, Karcin, Caitlin Paint: 1 - Alex Oofers: 1 - Tactical Caitlin: 1 - Ngekop Lily - 1 - Atoms (VC rn)
11:55
Because of your reaction
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Nah fk this cross
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It made me want to give you another chance
11:55
Then you started making 0 sense again 👍
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Ngekop
Is you were fine not sr’ing me bc of my reasons sr’ing you in the first place
And you agree the things you claim to be towny (which can be fypov) are NAI fmpov
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Caitlin
Then you started making 0 sense again 👍
????
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I never agreed on the original stances tho
11:56
I just thought you were more townie, yet misinformed
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Yeah but you didnt sus me for them
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Only because of your response
11:56
Without that was an awful scumlean
11:56
And now you claim you apparantly have scumread me for responding to that
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When you never said that at all
11:57
So now you're also just making stuff up
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And now i get pushed for stating i still can see you scum even after the recent events which you agree are NAI from you fmpov
11:57
?
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I think it's weird you're still keeping onto smth that happened rlly early D1 without ever reconsidering that
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And then making up additional reasons mid convo
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And using the fact that I pushed Atoms to discredit everything else
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Caitlin
I think it's weird you're still keeping onto smth that happened rlly early D1 without ever reconsidering that
It’s not me keeping onto something
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While also saying 'yea you can fake this because you're good'
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Im not even pushing strongly
11:58
Just an fyi
11:58
I was literally voting paint
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Like 20 minutes ago
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I literally typed “/vote Paint”
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And was about to send it
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But why Paint
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Bc i wanted to see how people would move around me doing that vote
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I see
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I wasnt going atoms
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I agree
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And paint was lowkey lurking
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I think Atoms is flipping town atp
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Commenting on that vote
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Caitlin
I think Atoms is flipping town atp
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And Ig I did
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Spitevote you
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And yet im maf?
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@Paint @LilyBottom 🌺 @Oofers @Giles Corey have you ever considered changing votes
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Atoms has more votes
12:00
So you can still defend Atoms for towncred .-.
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And we won't know what happens final minute
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Caitlin
Spitevote you
Shocked :0
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If it was tied
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You could just vote Atoms
12:00
Saying 'self pres'
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So like
12:00
Atoms being town -> Doesn't clear you
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I agree there
12:01
Honestly
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I kinda agree on Paint but also
12:01
I gtg any second
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So Idk how comfortable I feel making such a quick judgement call
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Caitlin
I gtg any second
Bruh
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I said that .-.
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After we had the
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Hour mess up
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@x³ im not voting lily over you
12:01
Jsyk
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I think I said that I had to go at this time
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I always have dinner at 6 PM
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Fair
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well 1 hour left
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imma claim
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@Lunexia on Osu! can we get the extra hour?
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i am the sexy sexy vig
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Which isnt actually extra
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i am the sexy sexy vig
Welp
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Now we def
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Shouldn't vote Atoms!
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Ok we dont cote atoms
12:02
Vote*
12:02
Yeah
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If not Lily
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Ig I don't mind Paint because
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His recent msges upon an ISO
12:02
Are indeed awful
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Ngekop
@Lunexia on Osu! can we get the extra hour?
Bc it said days 48 hours and it will only be 47
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Especially because he shaded Giles who I think is town and Oofers who clearly only appeared due to being pinged (so next asking where he came from is weird imo)
12:03
But also
12:03
Ngekop wants Pain
12:03
Paint
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So if Ngekop is mafia after all
12:04
Then Paint is still a bad idea
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Kk that’s all i needed
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(That being said it could just be a distancing too)
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Ngekop
Kk that’s all i needed
💀
12:05
Would mafia!Ngekop back down
12:05
Hm
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Back down?
12:05
I just voted paint
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Also Mel p much missing all content
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Ngekop
Back down?
From voting me
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Oh
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Well i mean
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Regardless of my thoughts on you
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I still didn't get called downstairs yet for dinner 👀
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Ngekop
Regardless of my thoughts on you
Idk what to do here
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I get how you feel
12:06
As much as
12:06
You annoy me
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I just have this feeling you're just town here
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And Atoms being lynched
12:06
Is the worst outcome
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Caitlin
You annoy me
Wow
12:06
:(
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Sorry
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Ok but then you get how i felt in ne23
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That's a decade ago
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So no I don't
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Lmaoooo
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I literally have no idea what game that was
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You were cop
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Oh I rolled Cop lately?
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Everyone else cit/maf
12:07
You died n1
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Now it's coming back yea
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The game we met!
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You pushed on me all d1
12:08
Yes
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And i even stated you were annoying me
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Then sent a friend request Trollface
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True
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Lol
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And we're friends now 😎
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You (and DarkB and Diso) are cool
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Just
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Intimidating
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Ok still like
12:09
I want Cait in eod lol
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Ig we can make a Paint wagon happen for now
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The Bubblez last min wagon went well too
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This isnt last minute tho
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For me it is
12:09
💀
12:10
i guess that works
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I'll try to be online
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Before EoD
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But it's like 30% chance probably
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Or what do you think Atoms
12:10
Nvm
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i mean i would have prefered lily or smth but thats just cuz i harder scumlean em
12:10
but yeah paint isn't doing the work as a townie
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(not that i am either)
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Paint/Lily/Karcin are my top suspects rn
12:11
Atoms/Giles my top 2 town reads funnily enough
12:11
Do with that what you will if I don't return
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I wanted to read karcin’s reasoning for the vote on me tho
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I expected to have that before day ends
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Kinda disappointing it just dipped after that
12:12
he*
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Sorry I play an org with like 5 ppl using it/its
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It lmaoooo
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So now I kinda use that as default
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Personally I don't rlly get why ppl would use it/its pronouns but hey if people wanna use them then Ig I have to respect it
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i just use they default
12:14
neutral pronouns fr
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(Giles just dropped a spot for that silent vote)
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Fr
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>I wonder why still no dinner
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I was working on NE30
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dinner ate itself
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Don’t want to get caught lacking if someone joins suddenly
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I mean
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I think Atoms is
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Kinda clear basically
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Bc he is not stupid
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But I'd still
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Post here
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And then change my vote!
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Not the other way around smh
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What would I say
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'Oh Atoms vigi I am fine with Paint'
12:16
Smth like that Ig
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@Paint
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Why use many words when vote do trick
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If Ngekop self votes the wagons become 3-3-3 lol
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RNG TIME
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Ok I gtg fr now
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Bye
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(Lune if you dont lynch paint in us 3 you are mafsided)
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Caitlin
Ok I gtg fr now
Noooo
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Wait nah
12:19
Paint has 4 votes
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@Lunexia on Osu! vote count?
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Paint 4 - Alex, Cait, Atoms, Giles Me 2 - Mel, karcin Atoms 3 - Paint, Lily, Oofers Oofers 1 - Tactical
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I think
12:22
Not voting: Gappy, how, me
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Not voting: gappy, how, ngekop*
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Atoms btw you shoot tonight
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And if there is a doc go on atoms
12:24
We can gain a net extra ml if he doesnt die tn
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Wait
12:25
This sucks
12:25
YES
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:25 PM
Oh paint is in the game?
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Hi lily
12:25
LMAO
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:25 PM
Oh hi?
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Lily help bc cait left
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:25 PM
Help what?
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Caporegime can turn a partner into like a maf escort right?
12:26
So they can block atoms tn if that’s MH?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:26 PM
I think? Let me look at the wiki
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Ngekop
Caporegime can turn a partner into like a maf escort right?
i don't think it takes effect that phase
12:26
night
12:26
but i'm not 100% sure about that
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I think we need still TP and lo if any on atoms tn
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:27 PM
Ok so what is the question exactly?
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Tbh what does caporegime do
12:28
But specifically
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If they can turn a maf into someone that can block atoms the same n1
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:30 PM
Idk... uh if I was hosting I would say the transformation happens at night end, so like the Mafia would use their night action then becom another role
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Ok so unless mafia has a blocking role already
12:30
Atoms can shoot
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:31 PM
That's ToS logic though, which is not certain to be right.
12:31
Has any one pinged lune?
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Me and whoever requested VC
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:32 PM
I mean about this question spusificly
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I want to argue day should be until 88 minutes from now
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean about this question spusificly
No
12:32
Bc how just claimed vig
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:32 PM
I see
12:32
Not how
12:32
Lmaoooo
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:33 PM
@Lunexia on Osu! when Caporegime retrains dose the target Mafia use the abilities of there old or new role for the retraining night?
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Ngekop
ATOMS
LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:33 PM
Got ya
12:34
Oh Ig I shouldn't vote them then
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Lmaoooooo
12:34
Atoms and i tied at 2 votes again
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Amazing!
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But Paint has 4
12:35
This time
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:35 PM
Paint is top vote ya?
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Why?
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I started it
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:35 PM
Sus
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Then they followed
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:35 PM
Lol
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Im such a leader
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:35 PM
Ok far enough ig
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Also like
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Ugh
12:36
See here is where i think i have a TvS
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In cait/paint
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Bc i find it hard to believe either is mafia but they fr arent teamed
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:36 PM
I know some people like Day one, it's OK ig... I kinda like night start more tbh
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LilyBottom 🌺
I know some people like Day one, it's OK ig... I kinda like night start more tbh
Being n1d sucks then tho
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Ngekop
Bc i find it hard to believe either is mafia but they fr arent teamed
LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:36 PM
Ok that's a far assessment
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Ngekop
Being n1d sucks then tho
LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:37 PM
Ya that's the only thing
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23 minutes
12:37
Which should be 83 imo
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:38 PM
You could make it so no killing can happen night one... only like info and deception. But nit important to this game
12:38
That seems
12:38
Townsided mech lol
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:39 PM
It would be. The set up would need to compensate for it
12:39
Irrelevant
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:39 PM
Ye...
12:39
Ima shower
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:39 PM
Anyone wana join?
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21 minutes for eod
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Come on
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:39 PM
TwT
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LilyBottom 🌺
Anyone wana join?
👀
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:40 PM
Fine
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:40 PM
I'll just shower with my phone :D
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:41 PM
Nah I'm not waiting
12:41
Shower time
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Im going to regret this
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:41 PM
Reget what?
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vote channel
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:42 PM
Oh
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Why?
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It's 3 3 now right?
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Bc idk in Paint/Cait and if cait is maf i feel paint can be pr and karcin didnt explain a thing
12:43
No it is 4-2
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:43 PM
Ok cool I don't need to make a choice then
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Ngekop
Bc idk in Paint/Cait and if cait is maf i feel paint can be pr and karcin didnt explain a thing
And karcin had one good post which isnt even that good in retrospective (enough for me to town lean at first tho) and one awful move i wanted an explanation for
12:44
@Alive line MA
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:44 PM
I think him hopping on was super sussy
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give me a second NE30 filled
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:44 PM
@karcin your a sussy baka
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oh what
12:44
what’s the votes looking at rn
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PAINT OMFG
12:44
Bro i pinged you before
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im in school
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LilyBottom 🌺
@karcin your a sussy baka
Hii
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Paint
im in school
LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:45 PM
Cringe
12:45
Drop out
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Karcin is back
12:45
Hey
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Karcin
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Explain your insta hop on me earlier please
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Wow everyone is comiing on right near day end
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Wow everyone is comiing on right near day end
Im a god
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:45 PM
Ok I'm put
12:45
Out
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Paint
im in school
Cringe
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Lmao what
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:46 PM
Time to get steamy
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Fast forward time
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someone explain what’s happening
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You have 4 votes
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If we are a lot of people
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Ngekop
Explain your insta hop on me earlier please
Actually there was and is no explanation behind it
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I think atoms should lead bw
12:46
In :57 or smth
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Are you that old?
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Bc otherwise mafia can easily manipulate into a ml
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it would be cool if this wagon pivoted somewhere else 👍
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Would it?
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Paint
it would be cool if this wagon pivoted somewhere else 👍
Yeah, sure, just let me know. In the meantime, I'll put my vote back to Alex.
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Well lets say we did
12:47
yes
12:47
it would be
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karcin
Actually there was and is no explanation behind it
Schrödinger explanation love that
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very cool
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Who eould you pivot too
12:47
Paint
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:48 PM
Bugger down a pound
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Atoms is vig claim
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or Lily
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Ngekop
Atoms is vig claim
nobody told me that
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Paint
or Lily
LilyBottom 🌺 03/27/2023 12:48 PM
I will eat your skin
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Well i just did
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I haven’t even read what’s been happening to get to this point 💀
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That got you voted kinda
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Bc you called out oofers
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On doing smth quite similar too
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I did?
12:49
I was talking about how they silent voted
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When he popped in when asked to vote and join atoms’s bw
12:50
oh wait atoms claims vigi right
12:50
Yes
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great that means I can claim PR too
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without worrying about getting roleblocked 💀
12:50
or anything else happening
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Veteran?
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no
12:51
veteran cant be roleblocked
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Oh nvm
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Paint
without worrying about getting roleblocked 💀
Well exactly
12:51
That is what i got from this
12:51
Giles
12:51
Lmao
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veteran would never have to worry about being rbd in the first place
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Exactly
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that wouldnt change if someone claimed vigi
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Btw, who's getting lynched?
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We dont know
12:52
I would go in paint/cait/karcin/gappy/alex
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New 5pool
12:52
I still want atoms to lead
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if y’all could unvote me that would be nice too :)
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8 minutes left
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Ngekop
We dont know
Currently, it's either paint or atoms.
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says who
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Atoms is vig claim
12:53
We are not getting atoms
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Paint, if you dm me your discord login credentials, then I will not vote for you.
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Paint
if y’all could unvote me that would be nice too :)
You are voting atoms lmao
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oh I thought i unvoted
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Giles Corey
says who
I counted
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Hmm who to vote now
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You counted a vote from 2 hours ago
12:54
Without any context
12:54
Where’s your head at?
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I still dont want lily now
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Alright guys hear me out
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I say get how! Sounds like a good compromise to me
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gappy mafia
12:54
ez
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Giles Corey
I say get how! Sounds like a good compromise to me
Interesting
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Giles Corey
You counted a vote from 2 hours ago
So what? That's what I wanted to know: who has the most votes now.
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I say get cait
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Like i said last 30 hours
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@x³ what are your thoughts?
12:55
You get reads from sharing them and see where do each of us look at
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But we have 4 minutes 💀
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So hurry up pls
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Oh no
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Lily vote?
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I can’t wait to die in 3 minutes Troll
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What
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Idk anymore
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Ok new plan who do you tr?
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Guys just vote kpop
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Atoms have you not been reading what anyone has been saying in the past 6 hours
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Lune told me he's maf
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Dont want to vote them
12:57
Or paint
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Caitlin
?
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please hurry up my life might end soon
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Or paint
Huh
12:58
Dw this flips in one minute trust
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I mean town claim
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Yeah ik
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@Ngekop vote Giles
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But those two
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Can you uh change your votes
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Are my sr’s
12:58
And giles aint
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But if paint ends up dying
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Giles Corey
Can you uh change your votes
🤣
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ok it was nice knowing you guys o7
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Here’s my defense
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I will die in 40 seconds
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It’s not me
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Last call
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Cuz vet aint the most towny claim
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I promise i wont fight it
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@x³ that’s gotta convince you right
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Cuz vet aint the most towny claim
I’m not vet
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Please vote someone else
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20 seconds
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Atoms
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Go
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ok I’m dead now
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thanks giles
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Dont depend on mr
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Paint if you’re town I’m sorry
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But it’s me or you
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@Lunexia on Osu!
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Giles Corey 03/27/2023 1:01 PM
(went ahead and disabled speaking perms here)
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/27/2023 1:04 PM
EoD
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Giles Corey
(went ahead and disabled speaking perms here)
Lunexia on Osu! 03/27/2023 1:04 PM
You're a better staff than the actual staff
13:04
10/10
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/28/2023 12:47 PM
Day 2 Top Majority voting is now enabled. NoLynch voting is now enabled. (edited)
Lunexia on Osu! pinned a message to this channel. 03/28/2023 12:47 PM
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/28/2023 1:02 PM
@Alive line MA
13:02
Go ahead
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Top of the morning
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This…
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Ok @karcin why did you vote Paint right after he claimed TI nearing eod when Atoms was actually killing giles?
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Also i will keep info hidden until more people talk but wait a bit pls
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:06 PM
Wait I thought Atoms claimed TK XwX
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:06 PM
Oooh hello 👋
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He claimed vig indeed idek for what reason
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:07 PM
Sticker
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Hi pigeon
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Ngekop
He claimed vig indeed idek for what reason
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:07 PM
Ooh 😲 very strange claim , I like
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Ngekop
He claimed vig indeed idek for what reason
But he was basically getting voted out so had to claim pr and lead which he still did so w/e
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:07 PM
So ig we have no other TP?
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That sucks
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Oh wait
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LilyBottom 🌺
So ig we have no other TP?
Or mafia blocked them or had the strongarming thing (if MH is godfather)
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:09 PM
We have only 3 town power roles
13:09
*4
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Yes
13:09
You confused me so hard for a sec
13:10
Regardless my pool rn will be reduced to 4 instead of 5
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:11 PM
I think we vote Giles
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I still dont want lily, mel
13:12
The fact those two are the ones i dont want sucks lmao
13:13
But still would rather not vote how, animepigeon, tactical
13:14
And ig not gappy
13:14
So it goes tooooo
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Alex/Cait/Giles/karcin
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Where karcin and alex arent teamed
13:15
Idts
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:15 PM
Karcin is my top pick for now, but we will see how the day goes
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Same i think
13:17
The fact he voted Paint right after he claimed TI and against the bw Atoms led over Giles who he was already voting and didnt claim a thing
13:17
Idk
13:17
Well i do tbh but i want to see what he says about it before
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:18 PM
And he just hopped onto you with no reason... it was like he was waiting for someone to break the tie.
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Tbh idt that on its own is as bad
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:19 PM
Ig
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Like if it aligns with a read or lean you had before that
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:19 PM
I still don't like it
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It’s ok to vote along
13:20
But for example under that logic i don’t see a reason to actually flip to Paint that minute, it makes even less sense
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:21 PM
Also tbh I never saw paint claim TI
13:21
Was it at Day end?
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Oh a minute before
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I was getting out of the shower then dam...
13:23
So we got to TPow left....
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LilyBottom 🌺
Oh a minute before
Yeah
13:24
Still tho
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:25 PM
Dam if he had said before...
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Oh well
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I knew he was pr/maf which is annoying
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:26 PM
Oh this is a rich feedback game
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That's nice. If their is a consort they probably went on Atoms.
13:27
Well ig unless Giles is town.
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What is consort again?
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LilyBottom 🌺
Well ig unless Giles is town.
What
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Ngekop
What
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:28 PM
Mafia rolebloker
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Ngekop
What
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:28 PM
He was going to shoot Giles right?
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LilyBottom 🌺
He was going to shoot Giles right?
Idk
13:29
He was leading a bw on giles
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By the end of the day
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:30 PM
Right. Well idk then. But if anyone was roleblocked they should probably come out about it
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:32 PM
You disagree?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:32 PM
Oh ok.
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But wait
13:33
Town with no abilities still receive notifications like “you were role blocked”?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:33 PM
It's rich so I think so
13:33
Rich usaly means ToS style of feedback I think.
13:34
And a jester will be told they are roleblocked in ToS
13:34
But it's host depending
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Ig
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@Lunexia on Osu! if a citizen is roleblocked will that appear in their feedback?
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Ngekop
@Lunexia on Osu! if a citizen is roleblocked will that appear in their feedback?
Lunexia on Osu! 03/28/2023 1:35 PM
Yes
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LilyBottom 🌺
Right. Well idk then. But if anyone was roleblocked they should probably come out about it
Then yeah
13:36
Nice karcin is here
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Ok @karcin why did you vote Paint right after he claimed TI nearing eod when Atoms was actually killing giles?
I didn't know he claimed TI. I think I did see him claim PR though.
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Ok but still why did you flip to a PR claim?
13:37
Last minute
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And against Atoms’s vote
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Yeah, my bad, I should have flipped it to you.
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That's what I tried to do, but I was late.
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You voted me after i voted you and it was already eod
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Paint
great that means I can claim PR too
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:38 PM
They did claim that. Only once thu
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Karcin saw it tho
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Ngekop
You voted me after i voted you and it was already eod
But i still dont see why did you flip from Giles when you were already voting him before
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Ngekop
You voted me after i voted you and it was already eod
You've been talking all day everyday and you appeared to be doing a lot of gamesolving and reading other people and I had the least of your focus, and yet in the end you decided to vote me, why?
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I said
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Never mind
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Bc you flipped last minute away from the bw Atoms was voting to the guy who just claimed TI
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I tried to lead on Cait as i wanted like 3 times before that nearing eod already too
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Like look at lily, caitlin, mel... they did good in day 1, they had deep elaborate thoughts on people and they chose to stick with it until the end.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:41 PM
I did?
13:41
What
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:41 PM
That's cap
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Lily didnt
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karcin
Idk
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:42 PM
Wdym you don't know
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LilyBottom 🌺
That's cap
Okay good
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karcin i was sticking too until eod was weird af from you
13:42
Paint claiming TI makes me instinct try to flip it
13:42
And you voting him after he claimed when you were voting Giles
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LilyBottom 🌺
Wdym you don't know
I mean, yeah you did stick in a way. Like Ngekop confuses people in the last minute but you didn't.
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Made me instinctively choose you there in my vote
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:43 PM
How was Ngekop confusing people?
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karcin
I mean, yeah you did stick in a way. Like Ngekop confuses people in the last minute but you didn't.
Because Paint claimed TI
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:43 PM
Wait let me read it
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LilyBottom 🌺
How was Ngekop confusing people?
I find his logs convoluted
13:45
Btw, I should tell you that I'm playing this game without reading anything. And one of the primary reasons I was able to make a sensible read on Alex on day 1 is because she had far less amount of logs comparatively.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:45 PM
I mean... it looks normal to me... he was just trying to save the doomed TI claim...
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karcin
Btw, I should tell you that I'm playing this game without reading anything. And one of the primary reasons I was able to make a sensible read on Alex on day 1 is because she had far less amount of logs comparatively.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:45 PM
I mean same... but that's not a good way to play.
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean same... but that's not a good way to play.
I know. And I apologize for that.
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There's no excuse
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karcin
I know. And I apologize for that.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:47 PM
No need to apologize
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Lune may punish me
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:47 PM
I am guilty of it to
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karcin
Lune may punish me
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:47 PM
Lol I never read and I got promoted to staff. No worries
13:47
We are more casual here
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LilyBottom 🌺
Lol I never read and I got promoted to staff. No worries
Amazing
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean... it looks normal to me... he was just trying to save the doomed TI claim...
Like compared to Catlin's reads. She was very organized with it.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:48 PM
And we get it reading is hard and takes time that you might not have
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karcin
Like compared to Catlin's reads. She was very organized with it.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:48 PM
Oh yes, she has a system
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karcin the only not organized vote by me was the one on you
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And my thinking kinda resonates with Mel. Ngekop is all over the place. His logs is convoluted. And he may try to omit information in that way.
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And i explained it while you still havent explained why did you flip to Paint last sec
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I just did surface reading whenever I opened discord and switched to this channel to see what's going on. I rarely scrolled up.
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karcin
And my thinking kinda resonates with Mel. Ngekop is all over the place. His logs is convoluted. And he may try to omit information in that way.
How am i all over the place? I need to read 12 people and made a fix set of who i wanted or would be ok with voting
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Ngekop
And i explained it while you still havent explained why did you flip to Paint last sec
I didn't have enough information. I just sheeped.
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And nothing i did from there goes away from my previous set
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karcin
I didn't have enough information. I just sheeped.
Sheeped who? Atoms was leading on Giles
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People were on paint since day start
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Ngekop
And nothing i did from there goes away from my previous set
Except the vote on you which i already explained
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And I saw many people voting paint before
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:52 PM
Maybe 🤔 Ngekop is a shepherd and we are the sheep?
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Yeah but Atoms was the person who was basically clear, led on Giles, you sheeped, flipped last second where there was no last sec input motivating that flip
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AnimePigeon
Maybe 🤔 Ngekop is a shepherd and we are the sheep?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 1:53 PM
God I could use a good dom
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Lmaooo
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And no
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My vote was on you btw lol
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By eod yes
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It was done after eod but w/e
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karcin
My vote was on you btw lol
Before flipping to Paint no lol
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It was on Giles
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Huh
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Interesting flip from AnimePigeon
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:55 PM
Let's make things interesting
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I did the best i could to get the lynch i want if possible but still making Atoms lead to prevent the mafia from manipulating the lynch to a town last sec in an easy way
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Bc even mafia wouldnt dare to vote against it or at least i thought so
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Yet you did…
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:56 PM
So Ngekop - who's your partner?
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Wait do you seriously believe i’m mafia?
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Ngekop
Before flipping to Paint no lol
I told you. I didn't have enough information. I was flipping on everybody. In the end, I decided to sheep and vote either atoms, giles or paint even though I didn't have my own personal reads on any of those players. When I voted Giles just before eod, I found his reaction laid back so I decided to flip again.
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:56 PM
Im just generating conversation
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Then i have no partner
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 1:57 PM
Hmm 🧐 not sure about that - I was expecting you to say Lily
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karcin
I told you. I didn't have enough information. I was flipping on everybody. In the end, I decided to sheep and vote either atoms, giles or paint even though I didn't have my own personal reads on any of those players. When I voted Giles just before eod, I found his reaction laid back so I decided to flip again.
Wdym reaction laid back?
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Like laid back in character
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Caring less
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I mean he hammered the vote on Paint if any
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Giles Corey
Can you uh change your votes
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 2:00 PM
So who's the best here?
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 2:00 PM
Best Player 😄
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Idk man. You won't get much out of an ill informed town like me.
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Paint
im TI
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Giles Corey
Paint if you’re town I’m sorry
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Giles Corey
But it’s me or you
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AnimePigeon
Best Player 😄
Mel/Cait probs
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 2:03 PM
Interesting
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Btw, giles voted paint before me. So, paint was already majority before I voted him.
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It wasnt
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You were voting Giles
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And i wouldve probs hammered giles if you didnt flip
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And I hadn't voted paint a single time before that
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Exactly
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Ngekop
And i wouldve probs hammered giles if you didnt flip
It'd have been rng
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You get why…it at the very least
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Looks bad on you
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karcin
It'd have been rng
No i wouldve hammered giles and make it 4-3
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Ngekop
And i wouldve probs hammered giles if you didnt flip
Then I would have voted paint anyway to avoid lynching giles I suppose
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Ngekop
No i wouldve hammered giles and make it 4-3
You still could have made 50/50 on giles
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Instead you vote me
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Not really
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If i voted giles at that moment
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It looks as bad on you as on me
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It wouldve been 4-3 lynching paint
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I wasnt comfortable with getting Giles but Paint claimed TI
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karcin
It looks as bad on you as on me
Not really bc i do have a reason
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Anyways why you vote me when I wasn't being voted by anyone
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You just wasted your vote
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That's it
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Bye
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Not really i tried to flip last minute
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Hoping giles, paint, atoms would join
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Ngekop
Not really i tried to flip last minute
But you're the only person who voted me.
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So you couldn't have lynched me in the last moment
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Yes so what
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You just wasted your vote
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I literally did that a game ago
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So yes i can
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Knowing full well that you're wasting it
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I could have voted Alex since she was my only read but I saw that no one else is voting her.
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So I changed
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There were enough people active to vote someone being weird in 60 seconds
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Ofc
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karcin
You just wasted your vote
You just switched your vote to a sussy town in the last minute so that your hands don't get dirty with the lynch and people don't blame you for it.
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Isnt that exactly what you did if any?
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Atoms was clear, paint was getting lynched and claim PR
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No, I voted paint. But I flipped to you because I knew that someone else was voting you too.
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Paint would be down to save himself over anyone there
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And the traction is greater and faster than you think
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Ngekop
And the traction is greater and faster than you think
It wasn't though
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:16 PM
I believe Giles Corey is evil. His reasoning for voting Paint is "It's me or you."
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Giles Corey is most likely mafia unless he is a Power role.
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Yeah but that was what i tried to get to happen
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:16 PM
A citizen would self vote or start a different push.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
A citizen would self vote or start a different push.
Me trying to push karcin
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And his rxn is omgusing me for the same thing he did and even worse
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Ngekop
Yeah but that was what i tried to get to happen
Why in the last minute? You had enough content from 47 hours and you seemed to be updated with what's been happening so you could have decide your vote comfortably ahead of eod so that town can come to a consensus and make sure that the right people is getting lynched. That's what I meant by confusing. You deliberately take advantage of the haste of the last minute.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:20 PM
I think Karcin could be mafia as well.
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They saw a PR claim and somebody saying "I'm Town." And voted the PR claim.
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Because in the last 47 hours there wasnt a bw lynching a TI claim
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
They saw a PR claim and somebody saying "I'm Town." And voted the PR claim.
Exactly
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Ngekop
Because in the last 47 hours there wasnt a bw lynching a TI claim
That has nothing to do with what I'm saying
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
They saw a PR claim and somebody saying "I'm Town." And voted the PR claim.
Yeah, sure, I claim PR too then.
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AnimePigeon
Hmm 🧐 not sure about that - I was expecting you to say Lily
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:25 PM
Oh bugger, am I partnered... I hate being partnered ( T∀T)
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I believe Giles Corey is evil. His reasoning for voting Paint is "It's me or you."
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:27 PM
I mean I would do the same...
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karcin
Yeah, sure, I claim PR too then.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:28 PM
What your claiming PR?
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Well dam
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I was going to vote you
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LilyBottom 🌺
What your claiming PR?
TK
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Or whatever is left
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karcin
Or whatever is left
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:30 PM
That's not a sus comment at all
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LilyBottom 🌺
I was going to vote you
L
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:30 PM
Do you not know your alignment?
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LilyBottom 🌺
That's not a sus comment at all
Definitely something I'd say as a mafia, right? It's wifom?
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LilyBottom 🌺
Do you not know your alignment?
Of course I do
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Lune had me say it at the start of the game
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:32 PM
Had you say it?
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Anyhow that's mod coms
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Ok well you seem fake as guck
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LilyBottom 🌺
Had you say it?
I think I already answered your question
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:32 PM
So ima vote you
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ok well you seem fake as guck
Fake in my pr claim?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:34 PM
Ya. I think you claim is the messes fake claim ever
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karcin
That has nothing to do with what I'm saying
Karcin but things change when a pr claims eod bc getting voted
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That was the case of Atoms
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Also i tried hard to see if i could get it to cait
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Who was the one i was feeling would flip maf the most
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No one followed
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ya. I think you claim is the messes fake claim ever
Congrats. I bet no one else could have found that out except you.
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What else can i do there?
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karcin
Congrats. I bet no one else could have found that out except you.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:36 PM
What is your goal?
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Becuse it almost sounds like you are throwing at this point
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I'm overstretching myself. Bye.
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LilyBottom 🌺
Becuse it almost sounds like you are throwing at this point
Yeah. My bad. I don't blame you.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:37 PM
Karlin is playing as a bad town member if they are town. I simply don't believe them.
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karcin
Yeah, sure, I claim PR too then.
Ohhhh boy
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AnimePigeon
Hmm 🧐 not sure about that - I was expecting you to say Lily
I never read this idk why lmao
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karcin
Or whatever is left
?
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karcin
Congrats. I bet no one else could have found that out except you.
What are you doing?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:44 PM
He's for some reason saying that claiming PR means nothing.
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He is saying that Giles Corey saying "I am Town" holds more credibility than Paint claiming a Power Role.
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So I believe he is most likely mafia, but I still want Giles Corey lynched first.
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean I would do the same...
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:45 PM
I apologize, but you should rethink your game strategy.
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Mafia vote PR claims day 1.
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No town member should.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I apologize, but you should rethink your game strategy.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:46 PM
Lol, I mean I know I am town and the PR claim might be fake but far
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how paradox 03/28/2023 2:46 PM
crazy
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LilyBottom 🌺
Lol, I mean I know I am town and the PR claim might be fake but far
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:47 PM
You would lynch somebody claiming PR day 1?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
You would lynch somebody claiming PR day 1?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:47 PM
If it's me or them
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:47 PM
That only helps mafia. On the small chance they are fake it still would be better to lynch somebody else.
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LilyBottom 🌺
If it's me or them
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:47 PM
I only see that being a useful strategy if you yourself are a PR.
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If I were a citizen and my only other lynch claimed PR I would vote myself.
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Them being alive, even as mafia, would give far more information than I ever could.
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:48 PM
I don't like self votes
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I aways assume it Mafia trying to look like pissy town
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LilyBottom 🌺
I aways assume it Mafia trying to look like pissy town
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 2:54 PM
In this situation the view of the self vote does not matter.
14:54
You are stating you would give the town less information, simply because you don't want to self vote?
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Giles Corey and Karcin most definitely have 1 mafia between them.
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Karcin seems like a town member who made a bad play and is throwing a fit for it.
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I would vote Giles Corey over Karcin.
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I am also at fault for Paints death.
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I voted him within an hour of day start and due to laziness I did not remove the vote.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Karcin seems like a town member who made a bad play and is throwing a fit for it.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 2:57 PM
I can see that. I am afraid that it's what they wanted to make it look like
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Ok I agree with the Giles, Karcin, Ngekop pool
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Karcin is still my top pick
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Ngekop bottom
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Although of it comes to day end I am fine with getting any other them out
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 3:05 PM
Hear me out
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We go with Ngekop
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Then we deal with the situation afterwards
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Seems Ngekop has the most influence so far
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From being the most vocal
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But is that to hide 😶🌫️ who they are
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 3:13 PM
I mean it could be...
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Feels kinda conspiracy to me
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Idk lots of day left
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
He is saying that Giles Corey saying "I am Town" holds more credibility than Paint claiming a Power Role.
Yeah
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
So I believe he is most likely mafia, but I still want Giles Corey lynched first.
I dont really, karcin’s move was way worse than someone wanting to keep playing (also from giles’s pov there is a slight chance paint is maf either way
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LilyBottom 🌺
Feels kinda conspiracy to me
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 3:25 PM
Common - heart of the cards newbie
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AnimePigeon
Seems Ngekop has the most influence so far
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 3:31 PM
This doesn't make sense.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
This doesn't make sense.
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 3:32 PM
Why doesn't it?
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LilyBottom 🌺
Lol, I mean I know I am town and the PR claim might be fake but far
Yeah this
15:34
But that is only from giles’s pov
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From karcin’s it just doesn’t make sense
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
That only helps mafia. On the small chance they are fake it still would be better to lynch somebody else.
Why lol
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
If I were a citizen and my only other lynch claimed PR I would vote myself.
Well tbf giles never claimed and hasnt talked yet sooo
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
In this situation the view of the self vote does not matter.
Yeah it was a last moment thing
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But i still agree with lily there
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I wouldnt self either by any means
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Unless they were fr mech clear which he wasnt
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AnimePigeon
Why doesn't it?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 3:38 PM
I must be missing something. What makes Ngekop more likely to be mafia than Giles Corey/Karcin?
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Why lol
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 3:38 PM
If you are a simple citizen the town loses one person while we get 4 night actions, one of them being confirmed Town Investigative.
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By lynching Paint we lost half of our night actions.
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And if Paint was mafia he would've been forced to make up a lie.
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He would have to claim that his target did not visit.
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What if he hit a Power Role who visited though? He would've been lynched.
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So he would have to hope he hits a Citizen, or he uses a mafia member as a cover.
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In any event Paint would've been lynched day 2 most likely depending on his information, simply to confirm a mafia member.
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I dont really, karcin’s move was way worse than someone wanting to keep playing (also from giles’s pov there is a slight chance paint is maf either way
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 3:41 PM
He doesn't want to keep playing if he is town it looks like. Giles Corey is more likely to be mafia I think.
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Deleted User 03/28/2023 3:49 PM
hello, theres a consort/escort in game
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also anyone voting paint after they reclaimed is a thrower
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who was online for the last parts of the day
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hello, theres a consort/escort in game
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 3:53 PM
Thank you for this information. We now know the second to last town member or one of the Mafia's roles.
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Deleted User 03/28/2023 3:55 PM
no its obviously consort
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no one would be dumb enough to block me as a escort
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
In any event Paint would've been lynched day 2 most likely depending on his information, simply to confirm a mafia member.
Deleted User 03/28/2023 3:59 PM
In any event if I was online he would never get lynched in the first place
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sending all the bozos that voted paint to the graveyard, we dont care
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💤
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oh nvm its not consort/escort, Im new to this
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Godfather, Consig/Agent/Framer -> two of the 3
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Deleted User
no one would be dumb enough to block me as a escort
Are you not even slightly self aware?
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Catching up soon
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Just woke up
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how paradox 03/28/2023 4:18 PM
crazy
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Mel
Are you not even slightly self aware?
Deleted User 03/28/2023 4:34 PM
read the message above you thx, anyways we lost 2 town power roles and learned basically nothing besides last sec voting pattern on a town power reclaim (edited)
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Karcin seems like a town member who made a bad play and is throwing a fit for it.
How?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I am also at fault for Paints death.
I mean same i started voting but karcin basically hammered it
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ok I agree with the Giles, Karcin, Ngekop pool
Huh
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What is this guy
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Doing
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Sorry for trying?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
If you are a simple citizen the town loses one person while we get 4 night actions, one of them being confirmed Town Investigative.
Not confirmed town investigative
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
What if he hit a Power Role who visited though? He would've been lynched.
Yeah fair but to figure that in such a small time isnt easy
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Again what if giles is just pr?
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If im PR i NEVER self there lol
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Deleted User
hello, theres a consort/escort in game
You were roleblocked?
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Deleted User
no one would be dumb enough to block me as a escort
Ok i see
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Deleted User
Godfather, Consig/Agent/Framer -> two of the 3
What?
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Deleted User
read the message above you thx, anyways we lost 2 town power roles and learned basically nothing besides last sec voting pattern on a town power reclaim (edited)
Exactly
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Yeah i def want
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Karcin/cait/giles
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Leave alex out
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Ngekop
Karcin/cait/giles
@Caitlin come in here
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Karcin/cait/giles
@Giles Corey wake up
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:45 PM
Ok
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Hi
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:46 PM
I just got in the car
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Hi
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Well ping me when you finish catching up please
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:48 PM
I didn’t either, I just saw them claim PR like 20 minutes before.
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:51 PM
A citizen would not self vote because self voting is fucking stupid. There was 1 minute left and I was not going to try and generate a 3rd option when I think just claiming “PR” is not helpful
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:51 PM
Well yeah it was either me or them. I didn’t even realize Ngekop had 2 votes until they were tallied
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I want mel’s and cait’s input on this
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Giles Corey
Well yeah it was either me or them. I didn’t even realize Ngekop had 2 votes until they were tallied
I had only one, karcin just voted me back
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@Mel you too come back please
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:53 PM
From where I come from (TOS), claiming “im a good role I don’t want to claim or mafia will kill me” isn’t a sufficient defense. I haven’t played any games here where that has not been the case.
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So you can see why I would not be moved or convinced by someone just claiming PR
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I don’t know if it’s meta to just let them be but it just seemed like a desperation move to claim PR late
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That either side could do
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
By lynching Paint we lost half of our night actions.
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:56 PM
You seem to be under the assumption that paint was always going to be real when claiming PR, where was this yesterday?
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Giles you have one vote, stop defending yourself (only alex is pushing on it and i want karcin anyways), give us your thoughts instead pls
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Giles you have one vote, stop defending yourself (only alex is pushing on it and i want karcin anyways), give us your thoughts instead pls
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 4:57 PM
I’m only responding to what people said about me. I feel like even if I’m not being voted I should give my thoughts
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Yeah that’s what i want
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Giles Corey
You seem to be under the assumption that paint was always going to be real when claiming PR, where was this yesterday?
But outside of this you have only replied defensively and explaining your vote when most people already agreed it isnt inherently scummy at all
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That’s the dumbest reason I have ever read
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Mel
That’s the dumbest reason I have ever read
Read karcin’s then
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But outside of this you have only replied defensively and explaining your vote when most people already agreed it isnt inherently scummy at all
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:00 PM
I’m not good at finding points in other people’s statements to question. I’ve been trying but I struggle to find points to point out
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I’m glad i even found one question I could make
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Giles Corey
I’m not good at finding points in other people’s statements to question. I’ve been trying but I struggle to find points to point out
You dont necessarily need to question people, just after eod1 and with a tracker flip and the ongoing discussion…something should be coming to your head imo
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That’s what i want
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I see Karcin fake claimed Pr
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Lol
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:01 PM
Like what
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I just thought that Caitlin might be pocketing me. Ngekop did the same thing in NE27 or whatever when he was mafia
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I don’t want to shoot myself in a he foot there but that came to mind
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Me/karcin eod, you sr’ing how (which i want to know why too) and him just saying “crazy” rn, Caitlin possibly only voting town nearing eod, pigeon’s initial approach rn after replacing, tactical finally engaging in the game after last day, lily/me/karcin daystart, alex’s push on you (this one you’ve already given a bit), …
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Giles Corey
I just thought that Caitlin might be pocketing me. Ngekop did the same thing in NE27 or whatever when he was mafia
Good
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Giles Corey
You seem to be under the assumption that paint was always going to be real when claiming PR, where was this yesterday?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:07 PM
Why lynch a PR claim?
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I could've been lynched.
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Karcin is twtbw status
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@Ngekop
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twtbw?
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Too wolfy to be wolf
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I inferred that right before you said it yeah
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And i…dont know
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Yes they’re not great and I want to policy them but yeah they’re not likely wolf
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Expect a full catch up within 8 hours
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After his d1 having 3 people starting to sr him i feel like saccing to get TI lynched is worth it especially if you can act exactly that way
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+ his rxn and omgus to my vote is awful
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Bc he is sr’ing me back literally for the things he did as well and in a worse way
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Mel
Expect a full catch up within 8 hours
Sure
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Why is Cait, you and myself still alive
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Bc atoms claimed vig i guess?
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Ah did they
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:12 PM
Atoms claimed Vig. We lynched a TI.
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I haven’t read EoD1 yet
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:12 PM
Mafia had no fear.
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Yeah that sorts that end then
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:13 PM
We lynched possibly our only TI. And the reason for it is: Could've been fake.
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Giles Corey places his own life above our possibly only TI.
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how paradox 03/28/2023 5:14 PM
cringw
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Mel
I haven’t read EoD1 yet
Huh?
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Giles Corey places his own life above our possibly only TI.
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:24 PM
I place my own life, one from my pov is 100% town, over from what I understood to be just a “PR” claim
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Was I supposed to just vote myself and hope paint was actually PR instead of mafia?
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Or even a desperate cut
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Giles Corey
Was I supposed to just vote myself and hope paint was actually PR instead of mafia?
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:33 PM
Yes. Currently you would be more useful dead.
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With Paint dead we have no information.
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And it left Atoms an easy target.
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Ngekop
Huh?
I don’t read during the night and I was not here while it was happening so why would I
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:37 PM
I’m more useful dead than Paint because you have hindsight. Someone just claiming “pr” means absolutely nothing to me
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Giles Corey
I’m more useful dead than Paint because you have hindsight. Someone just claiming “pr” means absolutely nothing to me
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:37 PM
No this is common sense.
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A mafia fake claiming PR reveals more info.
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:38 PM
Apparently not because I don’t see the point in sparing a vague “PR” claim
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Over someone else just because they claim Pr
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Giles Corey
Apparently not because I don’t see the point in sparing a vague “PR” claim
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:38 PM
So you believe that you right now are more useful than Paint being alive?
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He could be confirming a town member or a mafia member right now.
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Or he could be lying.
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If he was Mafia.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
So you believe that you right now are more useful than Paint being alive?
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:38 PM
If paint was proven tracker yes, but he literally waited until I didn’t see it to claim TI
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:38 PM
And the information he lies about gives us more information.
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Giles Corey
If paint was proven tracker yes, but he literally waited until I didn’t see it to claim TI
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:38 PM
He claimed PR.
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That is more than enough reason to swap the vote.
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:39 PM
I don’t see it
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:39 PM
If you are a Town Member what benefit do you have lynching a PR claim?
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What is the benefit of that? Please explain it.
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Especially day 1.
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:40 PM
The same benefit you have lynching any other non claimer
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I see it as null information that they claim pr
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If they don’t specify further
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Giles Corey
I see it as null information that they claim pr
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:40 PM
No it is good information either way.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Yes. Currently you would be more useful dead.
Damnn
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
No it is good information either way.
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:43 PM
It’s good information if they later claim a PR role that forces them to reveal more information. They could just claim Trauma Patient or another PR that lets them stall. We had no clue what they were going to claim had they lived. It’s also better for mafia to not get lynched d1 and they can do that by vaguely claiming PR if they know people will not lynch that. You are questioning me instead of questioning those who voluntarily chose to lynch Paint over me. I had little choice in the matter.
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Mel
I don’t read during the night and I was not here while it was happening so why would I
But you didnt read eod1 after a town tracker flip?
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Giles Corey
It’s good information if they later claim a PR role that forces them to reveal more information. They could just claim Trauma Patient or another PR that lets them stall. We had no clue what they were going to claim had they lived. It’s also better for mafia to not get lynched d1 and they can do that by vaguely claiming PR if they know people will not lynch that. You are questioning me instead of questioning those who voluntarily chose to lynch Paint over me. I had little choice in the matter.
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:46 PM
If mafia was being pushed d1 and was close to being lynched, I feel like they would claim “PR” at least just to buy a day
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But you didnt read eod1 after a town tracker flip?
Nope
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 5:46 PM
They wouldn’t just accept being lynched d1 and leave it as a 10v2 following the night kill
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I never do
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Waste of my time
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Giles Corey
It’s good information if they later claim a PR role that forces them to reveal more information. They could just claim Trauma Patient or another PR that lets them stall. We had no clue what they were going to claim had they lived. It’s also better for mafia to not get lynched d1 and they can do that by vaguely claiming PR if they know people will not lynch that. You are questioning me instead of questioning those who voluntarily chose to lynch Paint over me. I had little choice in the matter.
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:52 PM
I simply refuse to believe that two town members voluntarily lynch a Power Role claim.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
So you believe that you right now are more useful than Paint being alive?
It’s different now
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:52 PM
There is no way two town members makes that big of a mistake.
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Ngekop
Damnn
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:52 PM
This is true.
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Paint would be alive giving us information fake or real.
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Giles Corey
If paint was proven tracker yes, but he literally waited until I didn’t see it to claim TI
You talked after his claim tho
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And before voting
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:53 PM
I firmly believe that Giles Corey or Karcin is mafia.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
That is more than enough reason to swap the vote.
Ehhhhh
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:53 PM
And Karcin is more town than Giles.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
That is more than enough reason to swap the vote.
It is at least enough to not hammer him
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Fs
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Ngekop
It is at least enough to not hammer him
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 03/28/2023 5:53 PM
I could've been lynched instead.
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Three people believed me to be mafia.
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Why was I, a non-claimer, not lynched over a Power Role claimer?
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Giles Corey
It’s good information if they later claim a PR role that forces them to reveal more information. They could just claim Trauma Patient or another PR that lets them stall. We had no clue what they were going to claim had they lived. It’s also better for mafia to not get lynched d1 and they can do that by vaguely claiming PR if they know people will not lynch that. You are questioning me instead of questioning those who voluntarily chose to lynch Paint over me. I had little choice in the matter.
Exactly
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^
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But the only one there eod
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Was karcin
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Mel
Waste of my time
Damn
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I simply refuse to believe that two town members voluntarily lynch a Power Role claim.
Same but i think karcin’s way worse than giles there
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
And Karcin is more town than Giles.
Well i dont see it this way
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Regardless cait hasnt even come here and mel still needs to catch up on a lot
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How many MLs do have spare
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2
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And then we’re in LyLo/MyLo?
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Ngekop
You talked after his claim tho
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 6:00 PM
I talked after his claim but it wasn’t me responding to anyone or anything requiring me@to look up in chat
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It was right after I voted
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Lying about not seeing it is not the hill I would want to die on
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Mel
And then we’re in LyLo/MyLo?
Yes
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I simply refuse to believe that two town members voluntarily lynch a Power Role claim.
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 6:04 PM
You refuse to believe that two players, both people who are relatively new, agree to follow what you see as common sense?
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That’s not as hard to believe as you think
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I am not denying that karcin may be scum, but I am saying that it is completely possible for both of us to be town.
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Discord search fucking sucks on mobile one second
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I don’t like how Karcin voted me yesterday then made it clear today how they were going to try and not get me lynched by voting someone else
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karcin
Then I would have voted paint anyway to avoid lynching giles I suppose
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 6:09 PM
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Giles Corey
Lying about not seeing it is not the hill I would want to die on
I believe you but that doesnt make you town
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Then again
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Only alex is voting you rn
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Giles Corey
You refuse to believe that two players, both people who are relatively new, agree to follow what you see as common sense?
karcin’s pov is 100% different than your tho
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Giles Corey
Discord search fucking sucks on mobile one second
I KNOW
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how paradox 03/28/2023 7:15 PM
hi
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Mel
That’s the dumbest reason I have ever read
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:37 PM
You'd be surprised. It's a relevant topic in forum based social deduction - talking so much that there is a lot more posts to read. Sure you risk accidentally saying too much, but it's usually done too control the village folk easier.
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AnimePigeon
You'd be surprised. It's a relevant topic in forum based social deduction - talking so much that there is a lot more posts to read. Sure you risk accidentally saying too much, but it's usually done too control the village folk easier.
No, it's dumb.
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It's an argument that can be used to flip the read on somebody townie trying to control the chaos
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Dont
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Its NAI and unless u have more reasonings to back it up dont make this one
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I do think Nge is a wolf, but that's not an argument to make
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 7:39 PM
Could Nge and Karcin be paired
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Mel
No, it's dumb.
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:39 PM
We'll that's harsh lol 😂 we shall agree to disagree
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 7:39 PM
I noticed Nge was replying to my posts then went silent when I made an actual point
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Giles Corey
I don’t like how Karcin voted me yesterday then made it clear today how they were going to try and not get me lynched by voting someone else
Giles Corey 03/28/2023 7:39 PM
Aka this
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AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:39 PM
Damn dyslexia lol 😂
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AnimePigeon
We'll that's harsh lol 😂 we shall agree to disagree
Yeah you can agree that you're wrong. I'm okay with that
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Mel
Yeah you can agree that you're wrong. I'm okay with that
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:42 PM
Hmm 🧐, you don't seem to have a full grasp on the meaning of agreeing to disagree. But I don't have the time or inclination to explain that to someone that seems to enjoy being so rude. 😄
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AnimePigeon
Hmm 🧐, you don't seem to have a full grasp on the meaning of agreeing to disagree. But I don't have the time or inclination to explain that to someone that seems to enjoy being so rude. 😄
I do, I was warping it
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Giles Corey 03/28/2023 7:42 PM
I guess if that pairing holds then it doesn’t make too much sense that they are voting each other
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Though that could be planned
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
I must be missing something. What makes Ngekop more likely to be mafia than Giles Corey/Karcin?
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:48 PM
Sometimes it's better to go with a gut read. You guys/gals know each other more than I know any of you - it's just my opinion that it seems Ngekop seems to have the most influence or is even informed more than the rest of us.
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Mel
Its NAI and unless u have more reasonings to back it up dont make this one
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:52 PM
I feel your forgetting or omitting the fact that some people could have reasons to vote or have certain reads based on role info. You don't always want to reveal your role too early, in the view that you might be able to get additional info before being eliminated.
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There isn't much that is Non-Alignment Indicative, it depends on the setting, complexity of the game, players & familiarity with traits and trends or even being able to read people in a certain manner.
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AnimePigeon
You'd be surprised. It's a relevant topic in forum based social deduction - talking so much that there is a lot more posts to read. Sure you risk accidentally saying too much, but it's usually done too control the village folk easier.
It is a playstyle, not a tell on its own, if you really think that then you’re dumb or maf, simple
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Mel
I do think Nge is a wolf, but that's not an argument to make
Still? Amazing
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Giles Corey
Could Nge and Karcin be paired
Kk
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I want to switch
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To giles
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But i wont
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Giles Corey
I noticed Nge was replying to my posts then went silent when I made an actual point
Because i have a life bro (well i dont but i was doing other stuff)
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Giles Corey
I don’t like how Karcin voted me yesterday then made it clear today how they were going to try and not get me lynched by voting someone else
This was your only nondefensive point and i dont have much to say there
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I sr karcin but not bc of that bc he literally switched to a PR claim over you
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Giles Corey
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Exactly
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Giles Corey
Aka this
Yeah
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Only one
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Ngekop
It is a playstyle, not a tell on its own, if you really think that then you’re dumb or maf, simple
AnimePigeon 03/28/2023 7:59 PM
I think that's just rude to assume someone is dumb based off one disagreement.
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Giles Corey
Though that could be planned
Planned? Karcin voting me yesterday randomly hopping on lily’s tiebreak on the votes nearing eod?
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AnimePigeon
I feel your forgetting or omitting the fact that some people could have reasons to vote or have certain reads based on role info. You don't always want to reveal your role too early, in the view that you might be able to get additional info before being eliminated.
I do not care if you hve more reasons. I am not saying you don't. I am saying that logic u said was dumb.
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AnimePigeon
Sometimes it's better to go with a gut read. You guys/gals know each other more than I know any of you - it's just my opinion that it seems Ngekop seems to have the most influence or is even informed more than the rest of us.
I try having influence but i didnt make the chaos yesterday go that way
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Now to your second point what about me says im informed?
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AnimePigeon
I think that's just rude to assume someone is dumb based off one disagreement.
Im not generalizing in your persona, just on your statement there
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
A mafia fake claiming PR reveals more info.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 10:40 PM
Isn't that more reason to lynch the pr claim?
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Wait what?
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Cait’s timezone sucks for me rn
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Mel
Expect a full catch up within 8 hours
2.5 hours to go
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/28/2023 10:53 PM
Ok I'm at work but kinda reading
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I think Alex and Giles argument is nothing but an destruction
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Both seem like townie perspectives to me
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Thar all I have to say on what I have read
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2.5 hours to go
Starege
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LilyBottom 🌺
Isn't that more reason to lynch the pr claim?
The way the PR claim seems to be on the surface level is that of a overly prideful and cocky townie. But I've gotta read the context around that
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I want them dead personally so people stop being idiots
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And if they're a wolf, they did a shitty play which needs punishment
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But in order to win this game I am not sure their lynch is ideal
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But I'm definitely not opposed
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Pigeon seems like a wolf being opportunistic and their pushes seem relatively weak.
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Just from what I've seen
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This is all from a not fully caught up Mel
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Lily still remains fairly consitent, their tonal presence seems like they want the town to go in a good direction. Albeit I don't have much reasoning outside of that to town-read them. I hope Cait spoke more in the period I am missing.
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Cuz in retrospect they've been kinda disappointing
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Ngekop
But you didnt read eod1 after a town tracker flip?
Back to this. Reasoning is cuz if I die I just wasted time I could have done other stuff with
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Day 1 Catchup Ignore this if you do not want my insight into everything EoD1 By strong I mean that I believe they're probably Town, which I slightly disagree with now. So I am more like null going into scum-lean going into null again. Yeah thank you, again I was just gauging if I was seeing things because of confirmation bias. Both you and Nge stating this probably means it isn't. Ngl I am kinda weirded out that nobody has pushed me for just primarily focusing on one read the entire day. Doesn't mean its likely. Alr all info has been absorbed.
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My brain is large now
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Lunexia on Osu!
You're a better staff than the actual staff
Alright, fuck you too I guess
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Ngekop
I still dont want lily, mel
Why, I thought I was a null to you. Why does that take me out of the pool.
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Answering to ping but busy
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Mel
Why, I thought I was a null to you. Why does that take me out of the pool.
Literally what i said right after
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I still dont want lily, mel The fact those two are the ones i dont want sucks lmao But still would rather not vote how, animepigeon, tactical And ig not gappy So it goes tooooo Alex/Cait/Giles/karcin Where karcin and alex arent teamed Idts
Where, cuz "right after" nothing was explained
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Yeah, my bad, I should have flipped it to you.
Not directly fighting you is a sign of cockiness and pride. I would expect mafia to fight it directly, find reasoning to fake it etc
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Which would be the natural response for most
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Oh i didnt
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Are you saying that because Nge was more fluid in their reads, that they're a wolf?
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But here i meant bc i dont even tr mel
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Alright let me repeat my question then. Why am I out of the pool
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I dont want you today bc i still lean cait maf who voted only town eod and that leads me to her being opportunistic jumping in your vote on me
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And i never vote you before cait today if i go in here
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Alright this paired with the nonsensical post I responded to earlier. Why are you deciding to shade Nge constantly with no backing.
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You also dont give much info rn whatever you flip
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Bc you were so focused on me d1
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You were expecting them to claim wolf? what
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There’s little to none benefit in voting you out if i dont even have you in the 3 people i’d sus the most rn
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I will catch up in your catch up later
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Just answering when pinged n stuff
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That's a natural instinct. Nobody really wants to die
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Respectfully, you're kinda wrong here.
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Someones got a Ngekop kink.
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I now understand where your head is at with this, but personally I wouldn't hold any weight to that at all.
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Still? Amazing
Naturally
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Still? Amazing
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Your D1 was filled with manipulations and anti-town behaviour and you expect it to shift?
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Pigeon is also probably wolf
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And if its not Pigeon, its Nge
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They're TvS in my eyes.
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For reasons I will not disclose at this moment
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But feel free to refer to this later to ask why
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Cait still lowkey disappointing
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Which is sad
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Town Lily - Consistent, mindful perceived as wanting to better the gamestate. Which is townie. Karcin - Mindset aligns with an overly cocky and bad town than one of a wolf. Giles - null+ generally outted their reasonings for "allowing" the PR claimant to get the rope in a way that isn't really "defending" super hard like most wolves would generally do. Seems naturally Townie enough, but that's the only basis of the read so its only null+ Cait - Rough placement. Has good and has bad. Overall disappointing compared to usual, but that's likely NAI as their scum gameplay is generally pretty good and fools me effectively enough. Gappy/How - Complete null. One is likely a wolf just out of pure chance. Tactical - Just dislike them :p Pigeon - isn't wolf if Nge is. Ngekop - Isn't wolf if Pigeon is Wolf
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@Ngekop caught up within 8 hours like I said
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I'm a very cute man of my word
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Ping me once you can discuss
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 12:33 AM
well those look like sound reads
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odd that Mel and Ngekop keep wanting to talk to each other. Could be Mafia making discussion to; A) miss lead more passive town. B) get town cred. C) create distance between each other. D) All of the above.
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just a thought
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i don't personly think thats whats happening
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odd that Mel and Ngekop keep wanting to talk to each other. Could be Mafia making discussion to; A) miss lead more passive town. B) get town cred. C) create distance between each other. D) All of the above.
Nge is the only person who I can reliably bounce off of outside of Cait. And Cait is AWOL
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 12:41 AM
I think they are just moth active/analytical players
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^^ meant to say this
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forgot to press enter XwX
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What is AWOL
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Let me get back in catch up
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Mel
The way the PR claim seems to be on the surface level is that of a overly prideful and cocky townie. But I've gotta read the context around that
He claimed TI last minute tho
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Mel
And if they're a wolf, they did a shitty play which needs punishment
Lmao
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Mel
Back to this. Reasoning is cuz if I die I just wasted time I could have done other stuff with
Ok fair that has only happened to me once and it was in autowin so ig i havent been through that yet
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Mel
Alright, fuck you too I guess
Lmfao
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What is AWOL
Absent without leave. A military saying
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Mel
Not directly fighting you is a sign of cockiness and pride. I would expect mafia to fight it directly, find reasoning to fake it etc
Wdym here?
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Ngekop
He claimed TI last minute tho
You referring to Karcin?
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Wdym here?
Discord being a dummy can u link to what I replied to
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So I can respond with full context
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Mel
That's a natural instinct. Nobody really wants to die
Yep
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Mel
Someones got a Ngekop kink.
Ikr
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Mel
Your D1 was filled with manipulations and anti-town behaviour and you expect it to shift?
D1 i did try manipulating stuff especially eod but to the best interest of getting an optimal lynch. My behavior is consistent and not anti-town.
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Discrediting, Shading others, pushing people without reason or thinking, OMGUS voting, people pleasing.
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Mel
They're TvS in my eyes.
I havent read pigeon as maf there necessarily…if any i feel that is even more twtbw than karcin…by far bc they’re not even giving reasonable substance and going after me here that blatantly isnt smth i consider a scum who just replaced in would do
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Mel
Cait still lowkey disappointing
Wdym?
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Ngekop
I havent read pigeon as maf there necessarily…if any i feel that is even more twtbw than karcin…by far bc they’re not even giving reasonable substance and going after me here that blatantly isnt smth i consider a scum who just replaced in would do
No I am fairly confident on this.
01:28
It's either them, or you.
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Not both
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Ngekop
Wdym?
I expect more from Cait than what we're getting.
01:28
Not anything AI as I have stated, just slightly disappointing
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How do you have karcin placed this high
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Ngekop
How do you have karcin placed this high
Do you read my posts?
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Read the eod1 again especially in voting logs + read the hop on lily’s vote
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Mel
Do you read my posts?
I am doing that rn
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Ngekop
I am doing that rn
I've stated many times, even before I fully caught up, why my read on them is where it is.
01:30
Of which I also stated I'm not inherently annoyed if a policy happened on them because what they're doing is abysmal
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Maybe change lily for pigeon and we are completely opposite
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Mel
Nge is the only person who I can reliably bounce off of outside of Cait. And Cait is AWOL
How then? How do you bounce off of Cait?
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Mel
You referring to Karcin?
Paint
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Ngekop
How then? How do you bounce off of Cait?
How do I bounce off of Cait?
01:33
What do you mean?
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Mel
Discord being a dummy can u link to what I replied to
One sec
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Cait and I have fairly similar skillsets, and regardless of alignment. I can bounce logic back and forth and usually end up with a better outcome. Same with you for the most part, nobody else can be that effective here albeit maybe somewhat with people. Just not as good
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Mel
Discrediting, Shading others, pushing people without reason or thinking, OMGUS voting, people pleasing.
This is exactly what you said d1; i did ONE omgus voting and i said i would read to get back there and then kept it for different reasons. My pushes arent baseless and the only discredit i gave was worth discrediting and even you acknowledged it
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Ngekop
Wdym here?
I'm saying that instead of calling out the logic, which is the default reaction many go towards. They're instead sticking to their guns, and replying with what is obviously a cocky joke. This doesn't align with a mindset if they were a wolf, let alone one in such a bad position.
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Mel
It's either them, or you.
Im not and i dont like this
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It is, because I was referring to what you did.
01:36
Your pushes I feel are baseless, or if they are not its because you're overlooking logic either outright or refusing to hear those you missed and sticking to them regardless.
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Mel
I've stated many times, even before I fully caught up, why my read on them is where it is.
Your read is they are being too bad to be mafia which i strongly disagree with
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Ngekop
Your read is they are being too bad to be mafia which i strongly disagree with
Not at all.
01:37
I do feel they are in TWTBW status. But I also believe their mindset and intentions do not align at all with what they would have as a wolf.
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His particularly scummy behavior started eod1 and it led to a hammer on tracker which is a kinda fair deal for a lowkey isp mafia
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Those are two very different streams of logic, don't bundle them together
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Mel
How do I bounce off of Cait?
Or what did you mean there?
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Mel
Nge is the only person who I can reliably bounce off of outside of Cait. And Cait is AWOL
With the first statement
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Ngekop
With the first statement
I'm saying I can bounce off of Cait better than of you.
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Mel
Cait and I have fairly similar skillsets, and regardless of alignment. I can bounce logic back and forth and usually end up with a better outcome. Same with you for the most part, nobody else can be that effective here albeit maybe somewhat with people. Just not as good
OH SORRY MY ENGLISH SUCKS
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But as Lily was talking about you, I was comparing
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Ngekop
OH SORRY MY ENGLISH SUCKS
Lmao
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All g
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Idk why i thought you meant like confident on us not being able to read as scum teamed
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And put caitlin in there
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Ngekop
Idk why i thought you meant like confident on us not being able to read as scum teamed
Oh whdawdawdipawd
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(Bc lily’s post was referencing us being teamed)
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Ig
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Mel
I'm saying that instead of calling out the logic, which is the default reaction many go towards. They're instead sticking to their guns, and replying with what is obviously a cocky joke. This doesn't align with a mindset if they were a wolf, let alone one in such a bad position.
I mean you cant call out the logic and what he did right after is literally omgusing bc of what he did himself too
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Mel
I'm saying that instead of calling out the logic, which is the default reaction many go towards. They're instead sticking to their guns, and replying with what is obviously a cocky joke. This doesn't align with a mindset if they were a wolf, let alone one in such a bad position.
Also what would he do if being “one in such a bad position”
01:42
Im not even discrediting that i just want to get it
01:43
Again, sure, it’s weird coming from a mafia but it’s even less sense coming from a town imo
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Ngekop
I mean you cant call out the logic and what he did right after is literally omgusing bc of what he did himself too
Can you reword this
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Ngekop
Again, sure, it’s weird coming from a mafia but it’s even less sense coming from a town imo
Except it's not even less sense. They're a bad cocky and prideful person, obviously. Not all Town value being pro-town as much as most do. Some like to pretend they're super cool/quirky and act chaotically. Our job is to discern which is wolfy and which is not. I believe they are not.
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Mel
Your pushes I feel are baseless, or if they are not its because you're overlooking logic either outright or refusing to hear those you missed and sticking to them regardless.
The shading i could see but i didnt push on anyone without a reason backing it up
01:45
I pushed on cait most of the day and also paint from whom i even kinda tried to flip bc of the fast bw and bc i read him as pr/maf which was risky
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Ngekop
The shading i could see but i didnt push on anyone without a reason backing it up
You can make reasoning for any wolf read. I'm saying your reads are not up to scratch.
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Mel
I do feel they are in TWTBW status. But I also believe their mindset and intentions do not align at all with what they would have as a wolf.
I still cant see that
01:47
I can keep discussing that up or not idc but js bc it doesnt seem like any of us is moving from our stance
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Ngekop
I still cant see that
Perfectly fine. You probably haven't been focusing on reading intent outside of direct content like I have.
01:47
Which is my primary form of scum-reading
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Mel
Those are two very different streams of logic, don't bundle them together
Fair, still dont get it
01:48
Dont see it*
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Mel
Can you reword this
One sec
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Ngekop
I mean you cant call out the logic and what he did right after is literally omgusing bc of what he did himself too
Im saying he didnt immediately did but eventually he just went way worse than that. The reason for karcin’s vote is backed up on me voting him over the two in the cross saying i was wasting my vote when he voted me back right after that same day in a situation where i was clearly in no way getting lynched. I feel like i could scum case karcin so easily if i wanted to but that’d just be pushing an aligned narrative motivated by a confirmation bias on my side
01:52
Im not saying the things he did like voting me back eod1 are scummy but him omgusing me for those reasons isnt something i like much and the fact he did the exact same thing in a worse way doesnt seem to come from a genuine ego town
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Mel
Except it's not even less sense. They're a bad cocky and prideful person, obviously. Not all Town value being pro-town as much as most do. Some like to pretend they're super cool/quirky and act chaotically. Our job is to discern which is wolfy and which is not. I believe they are not.
I agree there but still the few content i see from this i dont get it coming from that kind of town
01:55
Also the approaches he took in me/cait/lily on our reads organized/fluid doesnt align with the explanation he gave for his behavior eod1 saying he was mostly reading on voting logs
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Mel
Perfectly fine. You probably haven't been focusing on reading intent outside of direct content like I have.
I tried when you brought it up which is why im not discrediting your points but i still disagree with your resolutions
01:56
Mafia can also have ego/not care
01:57
“I got a pr lynched already idrc”
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 1:58 AM
Wow, lots of smart talk
01:58
Donf mind me... I will just be lurking untill I feel I have something of worth to say
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Ngekop
I agree there but still the few content i see from this i dont get it coming from that kind of town
Them fake-claiming PR is obviously not a concrete stance they were going to make as a wolf. They were too iffy about it. Them going for a cocky joke rather than doubling down when it comes to when Lily was getting up them (I think it was Lily). Both of those things come from cocky Town more than a wolf.
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I just dont see a consistent or genuine process/mindset through his eod1/sod2 other than what you mentioned with on its own is less telling imo than actual game influencing actions
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Yeah sure, I claim PR too then,
TK Or whatever is left
Bro this doesn't come from a wolf.
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I dont even believe that is alignment indicative, it just comes from an ego player who doesnt really care at that point if they get lynched
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Mel
Them fake-claiming PR is obviously not a concrete stance they were going to make as a wolf. They were too iffy about it. Them going for a cocky joke rather than doubling down when it comes to when Lily was getting up them (I think it was Lily). Both of those things come from cocky Town more than a wolf.
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 2:00 AM
I kinda agree... the wired thing is he apologized for it... maybe because I said he was throwing? Didn't want to get sign up banned. Idk
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This is where you lost me Nge. I don't see you listening to any piece of logic that doesn't apply to your specific agenda.
02:01
I get your logic
02:01
And im listening to it
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But you are not listening to mine either
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Or at least not telling me why is that wrong
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 2:02 AM
One can understand a thing while still disagreeing with it
02:03
I'm just fluffing at this point... maybe it's bed time TwT
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Mel let’s be honest
02:03
If im maf with karcin town
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Ngekop
Or at least not telling me why is that wrong
I have been explaining it. I've stated many times why what you call is wolfy is not. With examples.
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I dont need to convince you to get karcin lynched today
02:04
But i still dont swe where MY points and reasoning are wrong
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Ngekop
But i still dont swe where MY points and reasoning are wrong
Your points are surface level reading of Karcin without looking further
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Mel
I have been explaining it. I've stated many times why what you call is wolfy is not. With examples.
You have replied to my responses on your points
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As have been all the wagons I've discussed with you throughout all of D1
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Mel
Your points are surface level reading of Karcin without looking further
I think this is the other way around
02:05
Well no but
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You think my reads are surface level? Are you joking
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Nah that was bad wording
02:06
I think you are looking into too specific behavior around stuff not affecting the game
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List all the arguments
02:06
You have
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On karcin?
02:06
This will be fun
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Ngekop
I think you are looking into too specific behavior around stuff not affecting the game
I'm reading into the intent and mindset behind posts. If logic about intent/mindset is useless, the entire game of mafia is random at its core. Which is obviously not a thing.
02:08
The mindset of a mafia, and a town are different by definition. This mindset leaks through motive etc in messages at least in a small way. Saying that its all stuff not affecting the game ,is wrong.
02:11
I'm off to Gym so I'll respond either periodically between sets or once I get home
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Mel
I'm off to Gym so I'll respond either periodically between sets or once I get home
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 2:12 AM
Ye get stronk!
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karcin
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Eod1: (Quoting this more referencing the stage than the text ofc) Joking around but still reading. Now here’s what they explained as their process here: Voting in terms of logs and who is the cross on, which sure on its own can come from a genuine lazy town trying to get the best they can from what they’re willing to put into it. This investment doesnt align with the reason he had to join the bw on giles and believing his response was towny to flip to Paint when literally Paint’s TI claim was done during Giles’s defense. This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod. So sure…let’s say it comes from an uninvested gut town barely scamming few content whenever coming in, which up until this i could see (and hence why i wasnt pushing hard enough at first on him and wanted to wait for his response). However: (sod2)
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This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod.
Are you twisting this on me?
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karcin
You've been talking all day everyday and you appeared to be doing a lot of gamesolving and reading other people and I had the least of your focus, and yet in the end you decided to vote me, why?
His first response was the “joke” you quoted but he did get immediately concerned about my focus on him. He focuses on me contrasting with mel/cait/lily putting the focus on me and discrediting my attempt of getting an optimal lynch eod1, saying it was bad bc i didnt stick to it. Here is where he literally starts calling me out on stuff he did
02:24
If this was an ego/not caring town
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Sticking to the read on their guns or whatever on me from their initial approach
02:24
Why not place the vote right away until others start putting attention on it
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Like look at lily, caitlin, mel... they did good in day 1, they had deep elaborate thoughts on people and they chose to stick with it until the end.
For example what he called me out on here was not sticking to a read
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This investment doesnt align with the reason he had to join the bw on giles and believing his response was towny to flip to Paint when literally Paint’s TI claim was done during Giles’s defense.
And what reasoning is this? I don't recall any significant reasonings from them. And even so, what makes someone who states they vote via logs or whatnot be disallowed from making any other move. Even if it was a genuinely bad move, by the assumption of me thinking they're town, it's already been proven they're not opposed to making stupid mechanical plays either way so this is primarily a useless argument on its own.
This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod.
Dont flip this on me, you will not enjoy the outcome.
So sure…let’s say it comes from an uninvested gut town barely scamming few content whenever coming in, which up until this i could see (and hence why i wasnt pushing hard enough at first on him and wanted to wait for his response).
I'm not allowing you to bring in a snuck premise so I will reiterate this for you. I believe them to be an uninvested overly cocky and prideful Town.
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When i clearly wasnt getting caitlin voted out even when my attempt was consistent
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Ngekop
His first response was the “joke” you quoted but he did get immediately concerned about my focus on him. He focuses on me contrasting with mel/cait/lily putting the focus on me and discrediting my attempt of getting an optimal lynch eod1, saying it was bad bc i didnt stick to it. Here is where he literally starts calling me out on stuff he did
That was not the joke I quoted.
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And he literally flipped 3 times from giles to paint to me based on last moment input
02:27
I felt like his rxn doesnt come from the kind of town you mention when it’s awfully defensive and countering in the same content but not pushing on a vote on me until later when animepigeon starts on it too for no reason
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He focuses on me contrasting with mel/cait/lily putting the focus on me and discrediting my attempt of getting an optimal lynch eod1, saying it was bad bc i didnt stick to it. Here is where he literally starts calling me out on stuff he did If this was an ego/not caring town Sticking to the read on their guns or whatever on me from their initial approach Why not place the vote right away until others start putting attention on it
You're saying an overall uninvested town not voting initially is bad?
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Ngekop
For example what he called me out on here was not sticking to a read
Which is wrong, but where's the scummy nature of it.
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I tried to explain how my actions if any align with the approach he himself took but instead of trying to engage or being like idc i stick to what i think, kept repeating same stuff until he got called out on it by lily
02:29
And THEN he voted me
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AnimePigeon
Maybe 🤔 Ngekop is a shepherd and we are the sheep?
His vote came UNTIL THIS HAPPENED
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Alright I understand ur argument I think
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karcin
I told you. I didn't have enough information. I was flipping on everybody. In the end, I decided to sheep and vote either atoms, giles or paint even though I didn't have my own personal reads on any of those players. When I voted Giles just before eod, I found his reaction laid back so I decided to flip again.
And this contradicts his whole initial approach he was claiming yo have
02:31
To*
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It's that he was stating intent to vote you or whatnot. And didn't until someone else voted first. Paired with them not answering a specific question or two about his logic.
02:32
Is that right or wrong
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I want condensed answers so I can answer properly while I'm out, you can clarify stuff after that. I will restate ur argument back to you so you know if I understand or not, clarifying what is necessary etc etc. Makes it easier for me to respond while I am out
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And when being put pressure by a 3rd person i think Alex got back to joking around and ridiculizing in response or whatever it’s spelled
02:33
With the pr claim thingy
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karcin
Why in the last minute? You had enough content from 47 hours and you seemed to be updated with what's been happening so you could have decide your vote comfortably ahead of eod so that town can come to a consensus and make sure that the right people is getting lynched. That's what I meant by confusing. You deliberately take advantage of the haste of the last minute.
Posts like this show someone trying to resemble a town discussing points but when pointed out he did the same stuff he was accusing me of doing and calling me out mafia for immediately goes on another tangent until being called out again
02:35
(Not only by me but by other people)
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Man just
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Idk
02:35
Even trying to ignore being upset at his play if he is town performing like that
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Why in the last minute? You had enough content from 47 hours and you seemed to be updated with what's been happening so you could have decide your vote comfortably ahead of eod so that town can come to a consensus and make sure that the right people is getting lynched. That's what I meant by confusing. You deliberately take advantage of the haste of the last minute.
Imagine a cocky Town that isn't skilled at Mafia. They see you're talking a lot and have been all day, and then you flip on stuff last minute for whatever reason (genuine or not). Do you genuinely believe this type of response cannot be genuinely conceived by a Town.
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I see a regular inconsistency in the approaches he claims to have
02:36
To what they keep going after that
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Mel
I'm reading into the intent and mindset behind posts. If logic about intent/mindset is useless, the entire game of mafia is random at its core. Which is obviously not a thing.
Yeah but the posts you are taking the most into consideration arent particularly as telling as you are saying they are imo
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Mel
I'm off to Gym so I'll respond either periodically between sets or once I get home
Amazing
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Ngekop
Yeah but the posts you are taking the most into consideration arent particularly as telling as you are saying they are imo
Nah I just think you're not understanding the logic, or deliberately disagreeing with it
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Mel
This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod.
Are you twisting this on me?
What?
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Lily has stated an understanding of the logic
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Mel
This investment doesnt align with the reason he had to join the bw on giles and believing his response was towny to flip to Paint when literally Paint’s TI claim was done during Giles’s defense.
And what reasoning is this? I don't recall any significant reasonings from them. And even so, what makes someone who states they vote via logs or whatnot be disallowed from making any other move. Even if it was a genuinely bad move, by the assumption of me thinking they're town, it's already been proven they're not opposed to making stupid mechanical plays either way so this is primarily a useless argument on its own.
This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod.
Dont flip this on me, you will not enjoy the outcome.
So sure…let’s say it comes from an uninvested gut town barely scamming few content whenever coming in, which up until this i could see (and hence why i wasnt pushing hard enough at first on him and wanted to wait for his response).
I'm not allowing you to bring in a snuck premise so I will reiterate this for you. I believe them to be an uninvested overly cocky and prideful Town.
1. The reasoning said was he tr’d Giles’s defense in the heat of the moment (idk how to word that but i hope you get what i mean), voting Paint again bc “sheeping”
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Mel
This investment doesnt align with the reason he had to join the bw on giles and believing his response was towny to flip to Paint when literally Paint’s TI claim was done during Giles’s defense.
And what reasoning is this? I don't recall any significant reasonings from them. And even so, what makes someone who states they vote via logs or whatnot be disallowed from making any other move. Even if it was a genuinely bad move, by the assumption of me thinking they're town, it's already been proven they're not opposed to making stupid mechanical plays either way so this is primarily a useless argument on its own.
This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod.
Dont flip this on me, you will not enjoy the outcome.
So sure…let’s say it comes from an uninvested gut town barely scamming few content whenever coming in, which up until this i could see (and hence why i wasnt pushing hard enough at first on him and wanted to wait for his response).
I'm not allowing you to bring in a snuck premise so I will reiterate this for you. I believe them to be an uninvested overly cocky and prideful Town.
2. Again wdym with flipping it to you?
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Ngekop
2. Again wdym with flipping it to you?
Wording has it seem like you were subtly attacking me for my stance on karcin
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Ngekop
1. The reasoning said was he tr’d Giles’s defense in the heat of the moment (idk how to word that but i hope you get what i mean), voting Paint again bc “sheeping”
What's the issue here
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Mel
This investment doesnt align with the reason he had to join the bw on giles and believing his response was towny to flip to Paint when literally Paint’s TI claim was done during Giles’s defense.
And what reasoning is this? I don't recall any significant reasonings from them. And even so, what makes someone who states they vote via logs or whatnot be disallowed from making any other move. Even if it was a genuinely bad move, by the assumption of me thinking they're town, it's already been proven they're not opposed to making stupid mechanical plays either way so this is primarily a useless argument on its own.
This is an awful look but on its own i give it to you, can be from a really bad town who just missed out the most important content eod.
Dont flip this on me, you will not enjoy the outcome.
So sure…let’s say it comes from an uninvested gut town barely scamming few content whenever coming in, which up until this i could see (and hence why i wasnt pushing hard enough at first on him and wanted to wait for his response).
I'm not allowing you to bring in a snuck premise so I will reiterate this for you. I believe them to be an uninvested overly cocky and prideful Town.
3. Yeah okay even with that approach, how does that mindset aligns simultaneously with: - his explanation on reasoning behind his votes/pushes/reads eod1 given at sod2 - the way he was engaging and responding when called out on the fault and flaw on his logic by other people going into further tangents over and over in his focus on me (“you didnt stick to your read” into “you wasted your vote in a sussy town last minute when it wasnt getting through” into “why waiting until last minute to vote that if you sr’d it before (in this last case where the trigger was clearly valid and explained from me being him voting paint away from the bw led by atoms right after paint claimed TI which basically hammered the lynch on Paint)” INTO joking around again and hopping on the vote when pigeon did
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Mel
That was not the joke I quoted.
I know, the joke you quoted is the first post on day from karcin (which is right before the on i quoted)
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Mel
He focuses on me contrasting with mel/cait/lily putting the focus on me and discrediting my attempt of getting an optimal lynch eod1, saying it was bad bc i didnt stick to it. Here is where he literally starts calling me out on stuff he did If this was an ego/not caring town Sticking to the read on their guns or whatever on me from their initial approach Why not place the vote right away until others start putting attention on it
You're saying an overall uninvested town not voting initially is bad?
Im saying i dont see the aligned mindset of a cocky uninvested town with the process karcin was showing start of day 2
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Ngekop
Im saying i dont see the aligned mindset of a cocky uninvested town with the process karcin was showing start of day 2
I do.
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Mel
Which is wrong, but where's the scummy nature of it.
The paths/tangents he was constantly taking until he just went with a ridiculous joke, voting and being like “yes ik no excuse sorry bye”
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He tried to show engagement and appear as such and when called out over and over kinda gave up
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Again what stops an uninvested cocky town to just make shit up at times. I've done it
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Well not "again"
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Mel
It's that he was stating intent to vote you or whatnot. And didn't until someone else voted first. Paired with them not answering a specific question or two about his logic.
The argument you are going to yes mostly
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Mel
I want condensed answers so I can answer properly while I'm out, you can clarify stuff after that. I will restate ur argument back to you so you know if I understand or not, clarifying what is necessary etc etc. Makes it easier for me to respond while I am out
Fair
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Mel
Why in the last minute? You had enough content from 47 hours and you seemed to be updated with what's been happening so you could have decide your vote comfortably ahead of eod so that town can come to a consensus and make sure that the right people is getting lynched. That's what I meant by confusing. You deliberately take advantage of the haste of the last minute.
Imagine a cocky Town that isn't skilled at Mafia. They see you're talking a lot and have been all day, and then you flip on stuff last minute for whatever reason (genuine or not). Do you genuinely believe this type of response cannot be genuinely conceived by a Town.
It’s not the reasons he gives for shading me fhpov but the response he gives when i simultaneously explain what i did + explain how he kinda did the same (especially when lily and/or alex called it out too), which was going on a NEW argument/line of reasoning against me
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It’s not the reasons he gives for shading me fhpov but the response he gives when i simultaneously explain what i did + explain how he kinda did the same (especially when lily and/or alex called it out too), which was going on a NEW argument/line of reasoning against me
Can you explain why this is scummy fypov
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Be back in a hot sec
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Nah I just think you're not understanding the logic, or deliberately disagreeing with it
Or just disagreeing with it; i can just be not considering them as telling as i should idk, it’s just the way i see them, that’s it
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Lily has stated an understanding of the logic
I get the logic but i still think there is dismissed relevant content in context from karcin that doesnt align as a whole at all with the town you are trying to get me look them as
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Mel
Wording has it seem like you were subtly attacking me for my stance on karcin
Ok mb ig, rn im not even focusing on you here; even if you are just scum in either the case you are defending partner or tmi’ing him town, i expect your posts to be logical and as objective as they can be which are kinda what i care about here to see what im not seeing or understand where what im thinking is wrong to reconsider
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Tbh to get a read on you idet this karcin thing is what i would go through for
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What's the issue here
On its own, it probs isnt; but im saying the approach he claims to show here isnt what i perceive he is having on the future content i refer to later
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I do.
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Again what stops an uninvested cocky town to just make shit up at times. I've done it
The context in which it is done bc he was clearly trying before to give a reasoning behind the discussed points
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But he was just going over different lines of reasoning constantly over and over as he kept being called out on them
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Can you explain why this is scummy fypov
Because it just feels more like someone trying to make up something over and over to get validation on their original like thesis from the other people in the conversation, rather than genuine line of questioning
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Then switches suddenly to the idc/sorry/joking around approach
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(Not me just having to use google translate to look for “suddenly” 💀)
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Ugh
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Im tired (it’s 1am already) but i will catch up on your response after class tmr
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/29/2023 3:42 AM
@PSYCHO_ this is the main chat, you can vote in #ma46-vote, refer to the pinned posts in there to learn about how to vote!
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Uh sup, will reread
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PSYCHO_
Uh sup, will reread
Wow
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Welcome
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And bye now fr gn
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hi yes
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any
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main susses
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Ngekop
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And Karcin
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But I personally don't think Karcin
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I think Ngekop
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how paradox 03/29/2023 5:57 AM
ph no prods
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I'll catch up now but I'm on mobile
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So I won't rlly reply to much stuff
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Had an important exam today and yesterday was my sister's bday so I haven't been online much
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I couldnt
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even extract information from
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Karcin messages
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Ngekop however
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I could get behind
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brb time to read them
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Also like
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I'm the second biggest poster
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While I have been super busy
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So Idrk what more you expect Mel
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I had triple your posts D1 of which some were wall posts .-.
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About Karcin, TWTBAW argument indeed exists because I do think no mafia in their right mind would do that
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I however also struggle understanding what townie would do that
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Kinda nullifying that argument
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And it does remain a fact Karcin voted Paint after he claimed
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Giles did too and he's being accused for it but I feel like Giles' situation was kinda a loss/loss situation
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And thus his move isn't actually scummy
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If Giles didn't -> accusation over it, TMI that Paint is real??? If Giles did -> accusation over it, why vote PR???
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Both are easily accusable
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And someoen that's the counterwagon to a PR afaik, isn't lockscum
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Thus accusing him on it isn't rlly a logic standpoint at all and Giles accusors become more sus in my eyes
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Mainly looking and Alex and Psycho for that because they're the 2 ppl voting Giles rn
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Atp I feel like either Ngekop is mafia or it probably is a relatively easy game with the more factually sus players (Alex, Karcin check those boxes) being mafia
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I do want explanations from people on why me & Giles became the CFD targets yesterday
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Because I think me & Giles are both town here
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we could
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get karcin out…?
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Karcin is currently tied 2-2-2 yea
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He's def my preferred wagon rn
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But afaik theres still like 27h left so that can change lol
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i need some activity
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quick, accuse me!!!
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Town Lily - Consistent, mindful perceived as wanting to better the gamestate. Which is townie. Karcin - Mindset aligns with an overly cocky and bad town than one of a wolf. Giles - null+ generally outted their reasonings for "allowing" the PR claimant to get the rope in a way that isn't really "defending" super hard like most wolves would generally do. Seems naturally Townie enough, but that's the only basis of the read so its only null+ Cait - Rough placement. Has good and has bad. Overall disappointing compared to usual, but that's likely NAI as their scum gameplay is generally pretty good and fools me effectively enough. Gappy/How - Complete null. One is likely a wolf just out of pure chance. Tactical - Just dislike them :p Pigeon - isn't wolf if Nge is. Ngekop - Isn't wolf if Pigeon is Wolf
Lily -> I can agree on that, I especially liked her considering the odds of you/Nge being SvS Karcin -> Hard disagree as you know Giles -> Fair Cait -> You keep calling me disappointing but I feel like I did alot late D1, you should read that Gappy -> Imo he's actially been game solving for once, do you disagree? And if you agree, why is he null then? How -> Fair Tactical -> Fair, I hope Psycho brings more Pigeon/Ngekop -> Agree on not being SvS with Ngekop, I def sus Ngekop more of the two. Could see them being TvT tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090488594315096114
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quick, accuse me!!!
Gappy is mafia
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My view on Ngekop is kinda weird because after I have a talk with him I townread him more
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But other then that he just doesn't feel as townie
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Caitlin
Gappy is mafia
Nuh uh, I shall now insult your intelligence
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Gappy
Nuh uh, I shall now insult your intelligence
💀
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Ngekop moment
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Also I know I changed my mind on Lily but I think I mainly scumread her yesterday due to having to think of who I was the most sus of and of the Atoms wagon, that just was her mainly
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But realistically the wagon could've been pure by pure chance
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And the Pigeon/Oofers slot also is still only null for me too
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I am okay with any lynch
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I am just here to help lynching people
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Its not like I got an ability or anything
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peepostare
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🥹
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😭
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Also I know I changed my mind on Lily but I think I mainly scumread her yesterday due to having to think of who I was the most sus of and of the Atoms wagon, that just was her mainly
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 10:49 AM
Ya... I should stop random voting early day one... it seems 9 times out of 10 it leads to that person being lynched regardless of circumstance (and only when town)
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Gappy
I am okay with any lynch
Fwiw - I think your Good 😄
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Mel
And Karcin
I thought you tr’d him?
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brb time to read them
Oh wow this will be interesting
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Caitlin
Had an important exam today and yesterday was my sister's bday so I haven't been online much
Omg
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How did it go?
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Caitlin
About Karcin, TWTBAW argument indeed exists because I do think no mafia in their right mind would do that
No mafia in their right mind would hammer a lynch on a TI claim?
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Caitlin
Giles did too and he's being accused for it but I feel like Giles' situation was kinda a loss/loss situation
Nah yeah giles’s behavior there isnt scummy at all
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I do want explanations from people on why me & Giles became the CFD targets yesterday
You werent only i voted you by the end, only i caught you 💀
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quick, accuse me!!!
GAPPY MAFIA!
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Lily -> I can agree on that, I especially liked her considering the odds of you/Nge being SvS Karcin -> Hard disagree as you know Giles -> Fair Cait -> You keep calling me disappointing but I feel like I did alot late D1, you should read that Gappy -> Imo he's actially been game solving for once, do you disagree? And if you agree, why is he null then? How -> Fair Tactical -> Fair, I hope Psycho brings more Pigeon/Ngekop -> Agree on not being SvS with Ngekop, I def sus Ngekop more of the two. Could see them being TvT tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090488594315096114
How do you sus me over pigeon…
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Caitlin
Gappy is mafia
Amazing
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Gappy
Nuh uh, I shall now insult your intelligence
Lmao
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 12:30 PM
ok heads up I will be absent like the whole day, I will try to respond if someone needs me (not that anyone ever dose f_SadBear)
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Why? You agree on karcin mafia and i think the push on Giles can easily come from a townie perspective even if wrong/flawed
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Caitlin
Ngekop moment
WHAT
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Caitlin
But realistically the wagon could've been pure by pure chance
I mean you only voted town nearing eod1 sooo 💀
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ok heads up I will be absent like the whole day, I will try to respond if someone needs me (not that anyone ever dose f_SadBear)
I-
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I-
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 12:33 PM
f_Giggle
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Ok tbh
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@Lunexia on Osu! the vote count lol
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@Lunexia on Osu! the vote count lol
Lunexia on Osu! 03/29/2023 1:40 PM
?
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Giles 1 - Alex, PSYCHO?
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/29/2023 1:41 PM
@PSYCHO_
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Have a incoming exam, will be out for another hr or two
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After that will reread
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Going to hard to socially deduce with two town power roles gone but whatever
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090673055400984606 No mafia in their right mind would hammer a lynch on a TI claim? - Ngekop It would fully put them in the spotlight, not that desirable. However as I stated Idt the TWTBAW argument stands, also not for the PR claim. Town wouldn't do it either, so using it as a defense is just bad
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674559063171143 Why? You agree on karcin mafia and i think the push on Giles can easily come from a townie perspective even if wrong/flawed - Ngekop Locking it in is bad tho imo. And I guess suspecting Giles can from a townie, but p much trying to set up Karcin & Giles - who both are suspected - as viable lynch suspects will be VERY sus if they end up both being town
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It kinda is a you move tho
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Me sussing you and then you starting about whether I should play in the champs sus
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674744136835152 I mean you only voted town nearing eod1 sooo :skull: - Ngekop I thought you sussed Karcin?
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Or do you now townread him
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Pick a side
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674290803879997 ok heads up I will be absent like the whole day, I will try to respond if someone needs me (not that anyone ever dose :f_SadBear:) - Lily I need youuuu
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090693069868900433 Have a incoming exam, will be out for another hr or two After that will reread Going to hard to socially deduce with two town power roles gone but whatever Good luck with your exam even tho you said like 80 mins ago you'd be out! And eh, it's still possible
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Day is when the real gameplay comes out after all
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@Ngekop
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I replied to you
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090693069868900433 Have a incoming exam, will be out for another hr or two After that will reread Going to hard to socially deduce with two town power roles gone but whatever Good luck with your exam even tho you said like 80 mins ago you'd be out! And eh, it's still possible
Quote from Psycho
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Forgot to write the - Psycho thingy
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One sec i cant read this rn
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Okay
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Will get back in like an hour
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Just figured I'd ping you so you can reply when you can
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Also smh
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Pinging me 9 times
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Altho another time you and Mel pinged me 27 times
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So Ig 9 isn't bad in comparison
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 3:10 PM
I'm curious - for those that haven't voted yet, why is that?
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how paradox 03/29/2023 3:14 PM
hi
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uh
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kinda busy with the other game rn
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when that ends i'll catch up ig
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 3:15 PM
Gotcha 🙂
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Lily -> I can agree on that, I especially liked her considering the odds of you/Nge being SvS Karcin -> Hard disagree as you know Giles -> Fair Cait -> You keep calling me disappointing but I feel like I did alot late D1, you should read that Gappy -> Imo he's actially been game solving for once, do you disagree? And if you agree, why is he null then? How -> Fair Tactical -> Fair, I hope Psycho brings more Pigeon/Ngekop -> Agree on not being SvS with Ngekop, I def sus Ngekop more of the two. Could see them being TvT tho https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090488594315096114
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 3:24 PM
Apologies that I haven't contributed much, and I can't see that the person I replaced did either - but I'm a replacement and wasn't initially down for the game and still getting used to this server. I'm trying to gather a picture of the scene as it is now - but been unexpectedly in the office on 2 back to back days - so had limited time more than I expected. (Sleep, Work, Travel etc)
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Something just doesn't sit right with me on Ngekop
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If we don't vote Ngekop tonight, I would suggest that any TI's should do there thing.
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I'm curious - for those that haven't voted yet, why is that?
The person I wanted to vote was at 2 votes earlier and it seemed like Gappy was gonna vote them too so I held back at the time and after that I just forgot to place my vote
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Apologies that I haven't contributed much, and I can't see that the person I replaced did either - but I'm a replacement and wasn't initially down for the game and still getting used to this server. I'm trying to gather a picture of the scene as it is now - but been unexpectedly in the office on 2 back to back days - so had limited time more than I expected. (Sleep, Work, Travel etc)
Yea your og slot didn't rlly... do much at all
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The person I wanted to vote was at 2 votes earlier and it seemed like Gappy was gonna vote them too so I held back at the time and after that I just forgot to place my vote
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 3:27 PM
Awesome - Thanks for the response.
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EoD1 is prob one of the most important sources of info
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Yea your og slot didn't rlly... do much at all
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 3:28 PM
Tbf I haven't done much better - I've just been insulted an awful lot by people who have never played with me before haha 😂
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Hopefully your time here will improve
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Normally people aren't very insult'y
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 3:29 PM
It's all good - I'm used to it lol 😂
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Being Dyslexic & potentially having ADHD/Autism, I'm rather used to recieving criticism for viewing and interpreting information in another manner to most.
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What is Alignment Indicative to one, isn't to another - some change there opinions on what is Alignment Indicative to suit there role/surroundings.
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090672876929171466 How did it go? - Ngekop I think I passed it, but not by alot
Not bad
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Back
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090673055400984606 No mafia in their right mind would hammer a lynch on a TI claim? - Ngekop It would fully put them in the spotlight, not that desirable. However as I stated Idt the TWTBAW argument stands, also not for the PR claim. Town wouldn't do it either, so using it as a defense is just bad
Yeah exactly but tbh if you already have a bit of a spotlight as he had after hopping on me quickly
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Pls try to not ping me
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I'm busy
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Getting a TI lynched is a fair deal
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+ you either save Giles your partner or make him look worse too with it
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674559063171143 Why? You agree on karcin mafia and i think the push on Giles can easily come from a townie perspective even if wrong/flawed - Ngekop Locking it in is bad tho imo. And I guess suspecting Giles can from a townie, but p much trying to set up Karcin & Giles - who both are suspected - as viable lynch suspects will be VERY sus if they end up both being town
But you want karcin 💀
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It kinda is a you move tho
Hey we clarified it was a poor wording from me and i just if any say you are doing something dumb in the specific game/moment
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Which as you also said is smth that happens to everyone
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Me sussing you and then you starting about whether I should play in the champs sus
I NEVER DID THAT
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STOP! I meant “cait’s right about even good players misreading. If you dont believe it look at her, the champs rep, yourself misreading rn”
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Implying you being the rep is telling of you being skilled
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674744136835152 I mean you only voted town nearing eod1 sooo :skull: - Ngekop I thought you sussed Karcin?
Yeah but you flipped away from karcin immediately to me and said karcin was town bc i was more scummy atm (out of spite) and saying him and i werent partners
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Or do you now townread him
No
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674290803879997 ok heads up I will be absent like the whole day, I will try to respond if someone needs me (not that anyone ever dose :f_SadBear:) - Lily I need youuuu
Mood
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Day is when the real gameplay comes out after all
Yep
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Altho another time you and Mel pinged me 27 times
Lmaoooo did we? Sorry
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If we don't vote Ngekop tonight, I would suggest that any TI's should do there thing.
Sure
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I wonder who’s about to get framed
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Yea your og slot didn't rlly... do much at all
It did nothing, period
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EoD1 is prob one of the most important sources of info
Exactly
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And yet smth people keep trying to dismiss
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Tbf I haven't done much better - I've just been insulted an awful lot by people who have never played with me before haha 😂
Hey sorry i just meant your statement on its own which is still mb ig but i do disagree with what you said
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Hey sorry i just meant your statement on its own which is still mb ig but i do disagree with what you said
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:12 PM
Don't worry about it - you were rather tame - just remember I'm new here lol 😂
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I'm not familiar with everyone as most of you seem to be haha 😂
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Also sorry for pinging too much caitlin
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AnimePigeon
Don't worry about it - you were rather tame - just remember I'm new here lol 😂
I mean but idt you are new to social deduction games
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:13 PM
Maybe that's why she susses you over me jks
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Im vocal and try to control/manipulate into a desired outcome by me as either alignment
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(Unless im not that invested for outside reasons or fr have no read)
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She keeps flipflopping on me
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And just null reads you iirc
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I mean but idt you are new to social deduction games
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:15 PM
I'm not new to Social Deduction, but I have played a variety of games and scenes - it's just about getting comfortable in each setting to make good reads. Sometimes it doesn't feel important or a waste of breath to make comments if people are too arrogant (not you)
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Or feels like a waste*
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Fair ig it’s kind of an inevitable unfortunate thing to deal with when being new and not knowing anyone
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:16 PM
Yeah - it's not like I signed up for the game initially haha 😂
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Still i have to call you out by this point on your push all day on me because i still think it’s being based on not enough concrete arguments like let’s say mel’s push
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:17 PM
Joined as a favour for a fellow Wolflorder
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Eod1 i actively tried to flip away from the two dead prs
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But you and karcin seem to be calling me out on being vocal to control this and make town dismiss content in mafia favor
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how paradox 03/29/2023 4:18 PM
alr
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now that the other game is done
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what do i do
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When the manipulative stuff i’ve done so far has been proven to be protown
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how paradox
what do i do
Read
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Still i have to call you out by this point on your push all day on me because i still think it’s being based on not enough concrete arguments like let’s say mel’s push
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:19 PM
No I totally appreciate that. I think in games like Mafia, Werewolf etc - a lot of pushes can seem unfounded, but gut feels do have a place, sometimes things are just hard to justify to others.
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Read
how paradox 03/29/2023 4:19 PM
nge you know i don't do that
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how paradox
nge you know i don't do that
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:20 PM
I like this lol 😂
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No I totally appreciate that. I think in games like Mafia, Werewolf etc - a lot of pushes can seem unfounded, but gut feels do have a place, sometimes things are just hard to justify to others.
Yeah i get that and that’s why i wasnt calling you out there but you kept reiterating the same push with no founded basis which idk if a townie here would push that based on gut with no confident concrete backup
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For a day now
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And your focus has 80% been on me since
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Or more like 95%
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nge you know i don't do that
Ty for making me laugh
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:23 PM
I mean there are 61 pages of Ngekop Posts in this Channel lol 😂
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Ty for making me laugh
how paradox 03/29/2023 4:23 PM
yw
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best thing i do
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:28 PM
Thinking about EOD
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Giles & Karcin could be a pairing
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Two Trains of Thought I have
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Could Vote Karcin to see if Caitlin, Lily & Ngekop were on the money
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Or I Could Vote Giles, based off the EOD Vote swing
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It does seem like Karcin & Gappy could be informed/share a chat 💬
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As it seems like they organised and orchestrated a save/counter push onto Paint
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I mean there are 61 pages of Ngekop Posts in this Channel lol 😂
Im so good
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AnimePigeon
It does seem like Karcin & Gappy could be informed/share a chat 💬
Wait what
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Gappy?
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:35 PM
Oops
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Lol 😂 typo
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Giles*
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It does seem like Karcin & Gappy could be informed/share a chat 💬
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:35 PM
Should say Giles not Gappy ffs 🤦‍♀️
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Kk
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Ngekop
Im so good
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:37 PM
How you write 61 pages worth yourself across 2 days is beyond me lol 😂
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how paradox
nge you know i don't do that
As you’d say tho
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how paradox
nge you know i don't do that
Get better
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Caitlin
https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1090674290803879997 ok heads up I will be absent like the whole day, I will try to respond if someone needs me (not that anyone ever dose :f_SadBear:) - Lily I need youuuu
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 4:39 PM
Awww thanks!
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AnimePigeon
Could Vote Karcin to see if Caitlin, Lily & Ngekop were on the money
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 4:43 PM
Idk about Karcin anymore. The "To wolf mafia to be wolf mafia" this I kinda agree with...
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Hmm
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Idk
16:44
Well I'm caught up now, off I go again!
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:48 PM
Karcin didn't vote Ngekop until I did it first
16:48
Could just be looking to piggyback another vote
16:53
Damn lol 😂
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/29/2023 4:53 PM
@Middle Man 5k here's the day chat, #ma46-vote is where you vote, how to vote is pinned there
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Legends say that Psycho is still making that exam
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 4:53 PM
What's up bitches bros & non binary hoes? It's ya boy
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:53 PM
5k
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Danganronpa
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Solve the murder
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To escape the school
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 4:54 PM
Precisely
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 4:54 PM
@Middle Man 5k so basically your predecessor scumslipped
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Giles Corey
@Middle Man 5k so basically your predecessor scumslipped
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 4:54 PM
I beg to differ
16:54
But please do elaborate (;
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 4:55 PM
what do you have to say that contrasts with your predecessor
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:56 PM
Giles just wants to maneuvre a tide of votes onto a scapegoat and you have been selected 5k
16:56
That's what Giles told me in Mafia Chat
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 4:56 PM
Oh no! Not a tide of votes!
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:57 PM
Oops 🙊 wasn't meant to share that was I
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I'm such a dumb dumb
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 4:57 PM
I do not like when people joke about being mafia
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:57 PM
Let's be honest - we should just all vote Giles to get today over and done with
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 4:58 PM
And prevent further discussion?
16:58
What sticks out about me specifically that wants you to get me lynched so badly?
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Giles Corey
I do not like when people joke about being mafia
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:58 PM
You sound really fun ...
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 4:58 PM
Why couldn’t you and Tactical be paired with a more experienced player who is telling you to push me. It would make sense, after all. Tactical silent voted and you have been on me since you subbed in.
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 4:59 PM
Well looking at the votes last day, was it just convenient coordinated votes that saved you?
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Giles Corey
what do you have to say that contrasts with your predecessor
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 4:59 PM
He said you were either a bot or evil Which certainly checks out Why
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:00 PM
Who would mafia vote there? A PR claim or a non claimer? It’s not a matter of careful coordination, but what they’d prefer
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Giles Corey
Why couldn’t you and Tactical be paired with a more experienced player who is telling you to push me. It would make sense, after all. Tactical silent voted and you have been on me since you subbed in.
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:00 PM
This is lies haha 😂 I voted Ngekop first, I didn't say a word about you. Don't know what you've been smoking.
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Giles Corey
I do not like when people joke about being mafia
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:01 PM
Same person that doesn't like fun, likes to try and make a sun slip? Not cool
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AnimePigeon
I think we vote Giles
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:01 PM
You didn’t mention Nge at all in #ma46-chat until you voted me. Your vote on Nge is insincere
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:02 PM
So In terms of prs, I'm curious; do yall typically claim early? Late? After fucking up? Never? On CC?
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:03 PM
You only replied to them once, with not a hint of suspicion to them in that reply
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:03 PM
I wouldn't mind a giles vote
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:03 PM
I suggest you read up what Mel and Caitlin have been posting, they’re the most experienced players
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Giles Corey
You didn’t mention Nge at all in #ma46-chat until you voted me. Your vote on Nge is insincere
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:04 PM
Oooh - I voted you for 43 mins yesterday and it's taken you 24+ hours to mention anything on it? Haha 😂
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:05 PM
So? It was just one vote, and at the time it came off as insincere
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AnimePigeon
This is lies haha 😂 I voted Ngekop first, I didn't say a word about you. Don't know what you've been smoking.
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:05 PM
Lies, you voted me first
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Your ass did not vote Ngekop first
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You’ve been here less than 48 hours and you have been caught in a lie
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Giles Corey
You’ve been here less than 48 hours and you have been caught in a lie
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:06 PM
Says you who makes it seem like all my posts were about you?
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My first and only post yesterday about you
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It's only logical to be sus of you
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Atom & Paint gone
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You vote saved onto Paint
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Atom Mafia killed
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:07 PM
What else was I supposed to do, vote myself? That’s not logical at all
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:08 PM
So why don't I see an ounce of suspicion from you towards Karcin?
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:08 PM
Because you haven’t been reading
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I have said that Karcin could be scum and I’ve pointed out one of their inconsistencies
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Giles Corey
I don’t like how Karcin voted me yesterday then made it clear today how they were going to try and not get me lynched by voting someone else
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:09 PM
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Giles Corey
I have said that Karcin could be scum and I’ve pointed out one of their inconsistencies
AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:09 PM
Sure - but you never backed it up with a vote.
17:09
That's fishy in itself
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:09 PM
Why would I vote there? It’s not significant enough to vote
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I was waiting for Mel and Cait to read up since they’re good at reading people
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:11 PM
Okay so 1 argument for day 1 would be - todays not significant, so let's all no vote right? Nope - because that would usually be sus to want that.
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You can't always wait for others to find the evil and for you to take the credit for dog piling the vote - especially if you have to vote your teammate in the process
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:13 PM
I didn’t say always, I say just in this case where I’m not sure.
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:14 PM
Fair - but still doesn't add up why you wouldn't vote a sus you have.
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Like I'm still curious as to why others haven't voted
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:14 PM
How much effort have you actually put towards suspecting other players? You’ve only focused on me and Ngekop, and then briefly mentioned Karcin
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 5:15 PM
Even if you don't stay on your first vote. You can generate discussion through voting.
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Until now, I had probably mentioned Karcin the same amount as you. Additionally, the only piece of info I had from who I replaced was that they were sus of you.
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:19 PM
Oofers never read up and has played a total of less than 5 games of mafia, as you can check for yourself. What they say is a guess at worst and unreliable at best. Also, you’ve mentioned me more times than you have Karcin, which makes your first point wrong.
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@Deleted User why the silent vote
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You never said anything in over 3 hours before or any time since
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oh nice! amazing work!
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:21 PM
We have never even interacted outside of this
17:21
So please, give any reason that proves you have read that I am evil.
17:23
Oh wait, he got replaced, well that still makes me suspect his slot
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@Middle Man 5k Did your predecessor 2x say why they silent voted. I imagine they were… silent… but it’s worth asking
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:32 PM
I keep forgetting that this server has color roles
17:32
Anywho
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how paradox 03/29/2023 5:33 PM
lol
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Giles Corey
@Middle Man 5k Did your predecessor 2x say why they silent voted. I imagine they were… silent… but it’s worth asking
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:36 PM
He was bullying you in particular & he's a wov player
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:37 PM
No clue what WoV means
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:37 PM
Wolvesville
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:37 PM
Oh
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:37 PM
The game I mainly play
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:37 PM
I’ve played that never heard it referred to as WOV before
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YOU TELL ME WHAT HAVE I MISSED!!!! (STILL WANDERING IN THE DEEP MIST!!!!!)
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Oh not much
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:45 PM
Not a lot
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Ngekop
Oh not much
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:46 PM
Other than the main character arriving fattest_yoshi
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LilyBottom 🌺
Idk about Karcin anymore. The "To wolf mafia to be wolf mafia" this I kinda agree with...
I mean we can keep him alive and go outside for more information but i still think that argument on its own isnt as good especially considering what he already did (and as Caitlin said, makes as 0 sense to do that as town so it kinda cancels out)
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LilyBottom 🌺
Well I'm caught up now, off I go again!
Bruh what
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LilyBottom 🌺
Well I'm caught up now, off I go again!
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:48 PM
Slay
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AnimePigeon
Karcin didn't vote Ngekop until I did it first
🤷‍♂️
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:48 PM
And silent vote
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Caitlin
Legends say that Psycho is still making that exam
LMAO
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:48 PM
Like predecessor like successor
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(Middle Man you were already voting me)
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:48 PM
Ok the thing I thought was going ro take several hours... didn't
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Middle Man 5k
What's up bitches bros & non binary hoes? It's ya boy
Hi Malcolm
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:49 PM
I'm going to read the shit load that was posted in my short abstsents
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:49 PM
Anyways
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I will say i'm more useless than pedro early game
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AnimePigeon
That's what Giles told me in Mafia Chat
Voting your partner huh
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Ngekop
I thought you tr’d him?
Did u read what was asked
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Giles Corey
I do not like when people joke about being mafia
It’s NAI imo unless it’s overdone or taken too far
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:50 PM
Do not care I hate when people do it
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AnimePigeon
Let's be honest - we should just all vote Giles to get today over and done with
That’s exactly
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What we are not doing
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:50 PM
Red
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:51 PM
Cope
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:51 PM
Sun slip?
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Oh scum
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Ignore me
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how paradox 03/29/2023 5:51 PM
goofy
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:51 PM
sun slip
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:51 PM
And why shouldn’t I try and make scum slip? Isn’t that a good thing
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Post count is great and all but that’s not everything
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Giles Corey
I do not like when people joke about being mafia
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:52 PM
Oh yea pal You aren't gonna like me (:
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Ngl i’ve been focusing a lot outside of people like Tactical, how, Gappy, etc. mostly bc the few content from them was null but with a tone that came out as a skimming lazy town
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:52 PM
But...
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I have a theory...
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Middle Man 5k
Oh yea pal You aren't gonna like me (:
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:52 PM
Oh no despairge
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But they havent done anything of substance in almost 2 days already so i should probably try and rethink there
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You’re a dummy poo poo smh
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Giles Corey
Oh no despairge
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:53 PM
Oh yes eyeswtf
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Lmao
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Ngekop
I mean we can keep him alive and go outside for more information but i still think that argument on its own isnt as good especially considering what he already did (and as Caitlin said, makes as 0 sense to do that as town so it kinda cancels out)
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:53 PM
Ya they are still my top pick... but only by default
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Only you and karcin voted near eod tho
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Ngekop
Bruh what
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:54 PM
mafumafu_sorry
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:54 PM
On d1, they go for PR Just based on my experience
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Cait following my vote after scum leaning me was funny tho but it was before the pr claim n stuff so i cant go there about her
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Middle Man 5k
Slay
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:54 PM
Hay! Bet your cute
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You voted him first tbf but yeah you flipped right away into me for a day
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LilyBottom 🌺
Hay! Bet your cute
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 5:55 PM
You knoq it qt (;
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*know
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Ngekop
Only you and karcin voted near eod tho
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:56 PM
If 1 minute counts as near EoD. For me it’s easily explainable by an above post which I’ll link in a second. Karcin I’m not sure as they contradicted themselves when explaining the last 10 minutes of that vote.
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Up to you but dont do it for no reason, make sure you have a purpose when doing so
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:56 PM
^
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:56 PM
I claim only at the right time
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AES_tea
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:57 PM
And Karcin’s inconsistency I mentioned earlier
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:57 PM
^
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Giles and pigeon argument is funny ngl
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:58 PM
Ok caught up...
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how paradox 03/29/2023 5:58 PM
imagine reading
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clueless
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But pigeon’s vote on you is tho?
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Rude leaving me and lily out here
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Probably accurate but still rude
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Ngekop
But pigeon’s vote on you is tho?
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 5:59 PM
I was referring to voting Karcin when I pointed out their inconsistency
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I don’t see how pigeons vote is relevant there
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Idt that’s what he’s trying to do tho
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 5:59 PM
Ugh
17:59
I'm bored
18:00
Ima do something else before I do stupid stuff here
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Oh btb everyone.... I have 2 left~
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Bye!
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Didnt tactical replace or smth?
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Wov?
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Oh wow
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Ngekop
Didnt tactical replace or smth?
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:02 PM
Yeah I mentioned that
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:02 PM
Yea
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Middle Man 5k
Other than the main character arriving fattest_yoshi
Claiming mafia head? That helps thanks
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ok the thing I thought was going ro take several hours... didn't
Yay
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Ngekop
Claiming mafia head? That helps thanks
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:03 PM
Bold of you to assume i'm not narcissisticenough to say that as vt fattest_yoshi
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:03 PM
VT?
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Middle Man 5k
I will say i'm more useless than pedro early game
Pedro?
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:03 PM
Oh yall don't
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Ok
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Forky?
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Regular town
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:03 PM
What’s a VT
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:04 PM
Vanilla town
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:04 PM
Well guess we know you aren’t cit then
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how paradox 03/29/2023 6:04 PM
crazy
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:04 PM
For real my good sir.
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how paradox 03/29/2023 6:04 PM
vt is another way of saying cit
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Mel
Did u read what was asked
I see, sorry i thought he was asking from an individual perspective to everyone rather than who are the ones with votes/people sr’inf
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Ngekop
I see, sorry i thought he was asking from an individual perspective to everyone rather than who are the ones with votes/people sr’inf
I always try and keep personal bias as personal bias.
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I try to avoid spewing it down peoples throats
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Anyway just woke up
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Off to the gym
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Vroom vroom
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Yeah that’s fair i just took gappy’s question in a different way ig
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Middle Man 5k
On d1, they go for PR Just based on my experience
That’s his point ..
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LilyBottom 🌺
Hay! Bet your cute
Agreed
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Giles Corey
If 1 minute counts as near EoD. For me it’s easily explainable by an above post which I’ll link in a second. Karcin I’m not sure as they contradicted themselves when explaining the last 10 minutes of that vote.
It was a constant flip for him whose reading was not in a huge under pressure bias as yours was for obvious reasons
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LilyBottom 🌺
I claim only at the right time
When you had a nonliar report on me smh
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Giles Corey
If 1 minute counts as near EoD. For me it’s easily explainable by an above post which I’ll link in a second. Karcin I’m not sure as they contradicted themselves when explaining the last 10 minutes of that vote.
Oh you were defending yourself; then yeah im just explaining why pigeon looking through it isnt unreasonable
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Ngekop
When you had a nonliar report on me smh
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:11 PM
Is this a reference to a previous game?
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Nah ok see this in particular aligns with what he said about the flip from you bc he tr’d your response to the near eod bw started on you
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LilyBottom 🌺
Is this a reference to a previous game?
Yes
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how paradox
imagine reading
Imagine active lurking sus
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:12 PM
Imagine
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Ngekop
Nah ok see this in particular aligns with what he said about the flip from you bc he tr’d your response to the near eod bw started on you
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:12 PM
Well if that’s the case it would have been nice for him to explain that
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Since this wasn’t the first time I brought it up
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Giles Corey
I don’t see how pigeons vote is relevant there
Trying to see what in particular did make you decide to vote pigeon (given you voted him kinda before almost your whole argument happened) when karcin’s inconsistency wasn’t enough for a vote at least (which can easily be changed at any time)
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LilyBottom 🌺
Ima do something else before I do stupid stuff here
Nah
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Get back here pls
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Ngekop
Trying to see what in particular did make you decide to vote pigeon (given you voted him kinda before almost your whole argument happened) when karcin’s inconsistency wasn’t enough for a vote at least (which can easily be changed at any time)
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:13 PM
He claimed mafia
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Giles Corey
VT?
Vanilla townie (citizen)
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:14 PM
Yes, but I don’t think a player who receives a cit role card would refer to it as VT on their first mention of the role
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Ngekop
Get back here pls
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:15 PM
I am... just not actively reading
18:15
Not untill something coooool happens at least
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Giles Corey
Well if that’s the case it would have been nice for him to explain that
He did tho…
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:15 PM
Trying to figure out school
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:15 PM
Also, they never denied that they were not VT
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Wait I might have confused myself with double negatives
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One second
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Giles Corey
He claimed mafia
How lol
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:16 PM
Wym how
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Giles Corey
Yes, but I don’t think a player who receives a cit role card would refer to it as VT on their first mention of the role
Why are you pointing this out tho…
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AnimePigeon
That's what Giles told me in Mafia Chat
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:16 PM
Here
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Ngekop
Why are you pointing this out tho…
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:16 PM
Because it’s a potential slip
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LilyBottom 🌺
Not untill something coooool happens at least
Kk i’ll try to change that in a bit
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:17 PM
Is it a bad thing to point out someone’s potential slip of not being cit?
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Here
Bruh bro…a joke you dislike is more deserving of a vote than an inconsistency in a relevant line of reasoning?
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Giles Corey
Because it’s a potential slip
Yeah but he can be PR which kinda helps the mafia especially if he was already roleblocked
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Ngekop
Bruh bro…a joke you dislike is more deserving of a vote than an inconsistency in a relevant line of reasoning?
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:18 PM
A joke which from my experience is a scum tell
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Is it a bad thing to point out someone’s potential slip of not being cit?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:19 PM
I mean... depends imo
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Im mafia and my partners are gappy and mel who told me to push on how today
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:19 PM
Shut the fuck up
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:19 PM
Like in our situation I think so? Considering we are down to pr already
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Giles Corey
Shut the fuck up
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:19 PM
TwT
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LilyBottom 🌺
Like in our situation I think so? Considering we are down to pr already
Fair
18:20
What throws me off is he literally claimed rb’d
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:20 PM
I’d think so if they were PR. But if they’re not PR then they’re mafia which is pretty important
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:20 PM
What someone was rbed?
18:20
That's huge! Not now. But it will be useful latter
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:20 PM
I’d rather throw it out there then leave it unsaid and have potentially only the mafia pick up on that
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Tactical/psycho/middleman
18:20
Skit
18:20
Slot*
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Giles Corey
I’d rather throw it out there then leave it unsaid and have potentially only the mafia pick up on that
Fair
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:21 PM
Citizen can be rb'ed incase yall don't knwo
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:21 PM
Yes but that’s not the slip I’m referring to
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LilyBottom 🌺
Citizen can be rb'ed incase yall don't knwo
Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:21 PM
If that even counts as a slip
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LilyBottom 🌺
Citizen can be rb'ed incase yall don't knwo
Yeah we do
18:23
It’s just kinda bold of a mafia to claim that if there isnt a mafia roleblocker
18:23
And if there is to not roleblock and claim roleblocked is stupid
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:24 PM
That’s more of a moot point with a potential Capo in game
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Unless other pr is an escort who happened to be on Tactical for some reason
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Giles Corey
That’s more of a moot point with a potential Capo in game
Oh wait TRUE
18:24
He can make a mafia rber out of another that couldnt use that action the night before
18:24
Kk mb nvm
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Ngekop
It’s just kinda bold of a mafia to claim that if there isnt a mafia roleblocker
LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:26 PM
Unless they are afraid of being called out
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I mean if no one gets rb’d next nights it starts looking weird
18:27
@Middle Man 5k can you confirm your slot was rb’d and it wasnt just smth said for the sake of it?
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Ngekop
@Middle Man 5k can you confirm your slot was rb’d and it wasnt just smth said for the sake of it?
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:28 PM
Slot?
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:28 PM
Yes, the slot you and your predecessors had
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:28 PM
You mean role
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:28 PM
You replaced a person who replaced another person, all of you share one role, and that’s a slot
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:28 PM
Ah
18:28
Kk
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Ngekop
@Middle Man 5k can you confirm your slot was rb’d and it wasnt just smth said for the sake of it?
^
18:31
You can see the feedbacks i think
18:32
(Never have replaced out or in so idk)
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:33 PM
Before I say anything
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Ngekop
@Middle Man 5k can you confirm your slot was rb’d and it wasnt just smth said for the sake of it?
Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:34 PM
How would you know this?
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Know what
18:34
If you were rb’d?
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:34 PM
He claimed it was stated that I was rb'd
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It says on the feedback you get
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Middle Man 5k
He claimed it was stated that I was rb'd
Yeah tactical claimed to be rb’d
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:34 PM
Oh
18:35
N1 or n2?
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There has only been one night
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:36 PM
This is not a hard question to answer if you scroll up and read your player chat, unless your slot was lying
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:43 PM
And he was never seen or heard from again.
18:43
@Middle Man 5k what's the hold up
18:44
Did you get RB'd?
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Giles Corey 03/29/2023 6:44 PM
rb'd irl
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Middle Man 5k 03/29/2023 6:45 PM
^
18:46
But for what it's worth, yea; I was rb'd
18:46
Gonna go take a nap
18:46
& proceed to wake up at 10pm
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:54 PM
Whens that
18:54
Like what your time zone?
18:54
Sorry I thought the wanted use to wake them lol
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Middle Man 5k
But for what it's worth, yea; I was rb'd
Ty
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 6:59 PM
Man I'm so bored
19:00
And the thing I normally do I can't because I'm in public
19:00
Well...
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hello guys its me
19:15
Gappy
19:15
Scooby doo be doo
19:15
(my catchphrase)
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Where are you
19:17
I love how gappy has a total of ZERO votes made still
19:18
Gappy and how
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Ngekop
I love how gappy has a total of ZERO votes made still
what can I say
19:30
im a pacifist
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 7:31 PM
Kill the hippie!
19:32
Wait i’ll vote the other
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/29/2023 7:32 PM
Lol
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Ngekop
Gappy and how
how paradox 03/29/2023 7:41 PM
hi
19:41
im voting lune
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Lost my motivation
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Wait why
20:20
Kk how voted so
20:20
I have to go back to Gappy, right?
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Ngekop
Kk how voted so
how paradox 03/29/2023 8:25 PM
bro does not know
20:25
💀
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AnimePigeon 03/29/2023 8:43 PM
Why the votes on Gappy?
20:46
Are the votes on Gappy serious ones?
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how paradox
bro does not know
I do
20:51
Still enough
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AnimePigeon
Are the votes on Gappy serious ones?
Idk are they?
20:53
Btw i was the second vote on both gappy and how
20:53
This game
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why vote me lily!!
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I dont want giles today
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Me neither
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Karcin/pigeon
22:53
Imo
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@Alive line MA anyone alive?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 1:32 AM
@Giles Corey do we need to take @Newcomer Game Host away from you?
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Mel
Lost my motivation
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 1:43 AM
TwT
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LilyBottom 🌺
@Giles Corey do we need to take @Newcomer Game Host away from you?
Rude
02:32
This is probably the first game where i am nearing eod2 and i still have only one town read
02:32
@LilyBottom 🌺 you here?
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Ngekop
@LilyBottom 🌺 you here?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:33 AM
kinda
02:34
Even if you havent said or interjected much i understand you’ve been reading everything somewhat, right?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:35 AM
uh
02:35
kinda
02:35
when I can'
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Where’s your head at? I still think unless there’s an escort here, Middle Man is town and i still want to make something out of mel/cait
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Mel
Lost my motivation
Particularly this from mel seems genuine af
02:37
But not in a way i like
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:37 AM
ya if there is no escort I think they are just confirmed town
02:37
or fakeing
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Idk where it comes from but if it’s not outside game related i dont see a particular reason for that point to reach a town Mel
02:38
Idk if the idea i got can only be conf bias or if it kinda stands so help bc
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Ngekop
Particularly this from mel seems genuine af
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:39 AM
I mean... I think he has said that at leas once every game I have been in with them
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It came out during a moment where the game was in a somewhat nonserious stage where most people werent giving any substance
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean... I think he has said that at leas once every game I have been in with them
Yeah but
02:40
The trigger here
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:40 AM
what was the triger?
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Is during an argument about middle man and giles followed by filler content to and from gappy/how both of which replied in a lame way but not telling of anything either way
02:43
Trying to follow from his pov where both read null and with at least a maf in there i dont see why a lost of motivation could follow there
02:43
And i was wondering if he just lost motivation to try bc a maf partner or both were doing that in the laziest way
02:43
While he has been trying fr and performing really well
02:44
Bc tbh as a town if someone i dont tr and can feel fine voting out isnt doing much it at most stresses me out
02:44
Then again you know him better and have more experience with him
02:44
So help there pls
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:45 AM
tbh... Mel plays a lot defiantly then how they act out side gane and I have not play many games
02:45
with them
02:45
but
02:46
I have not used they get annoyed as soon as games start lossing a competitive feel
02:46
(which is all of the :P)
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I mean yeah but like he kept trying, defending and engaging for example karcin who he believes rn to be a cocky town who has done…well you know
02:48
And idet the game in particular was going that much into that general state to lose motivation to engage or at least place a vote or smth and just going
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:49 AM
he may of only ment for the day!
02:49
I hope at least
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Idk it just felt a kinda extreme change of mood and it threw me off
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LilyBottom 🌺
I hope at least
Meh if that’s the case ig it’s not that much relevant as im feeling it rn
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LilyBottom 🌺
or fakeing
Btw do you see this?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:50 AM
do I think they are faking? no
02:51
thhey could be though
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The only context where i can see it is MH being caporegime converting a partner who wasnt roleblocker into one last night
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:51 AM
oh! that is a good idea. good thinking
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Like if there’s a mafia rb i dont see it as wasting a n1 rb (which includes a supposedly outed vig claim…) just for a maf to claim it and get town cred yk?
02:53
Considering especially there can be another TI that takes away that in a check 💀
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:53 AM
I mean maybe they did block atoms and claimed blocked... becuse well he's dead
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OH WAIT CRAP
02:54
But
02:54
Why hookkilling the vig lol
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:54 AM
?
02:54
what?
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Isnt it fine to just block him and make him claim roleblocked?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:55 AM
hookkilling?
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Block + killing
02:55
Mb
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Ngekop
Why hookkilling the vig lol
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:55 AM
to stop them from shooting, ever
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Ngekop
Isnt it fine to just block him and make him claim roleblocked?
Which would kinda absolutely unclear him and make him look even worse?
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Ngekop
Which would kinda absolutely unclear him and make him look even worse?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 2:56 AM
not garintead to work... but ig they could perma rb them if they need to lol
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Meh at this point i got too deep into that, but there are indeed reasonable scenarios where a rb fakeclaim can come from there
02:57
I still dont think it is the case tho but
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Ngekop
Idk it just felt a kinda extreme change of mood and it threw me off
Nah just I feel me talking constantly and getting nowhere is useless so I don’t have motivation to argue against a brick wall all the time.
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Mel
Nah just I feel me talking constantly and getting nowhere is useless so I don’t have motivation to argue against a brick wall all the time.
But you have lily, me, cait at least…what got you to that feeling so suddenly?
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My arguments are not one that I’ve been convinced otherwise, and I am clearly not convincing anybody so I am not going to exert effort in vain.
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I mean
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Ngekop
But you have lily, me, cait at least…what got you to that feeling so suddenly?
It’s not suddenly, I’ve been pushing hard to keep going albeit no motivation. Just this point, I’m done for today
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You convinced me to at least rethink a bit and unvote karcin
02:59
Which is a huge change bc after his rxn in my vote i didnt see myself ever not wanting him out today
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Ngekop
But you have lily, me, cait at least…what got you to that feeling so suddenly?
Also Cait is seemingly a brick wall as wrll to a lesser degree
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Still think it’s more likely to flip maf than town but still
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Ngekop
Still think it’s more likely to flip maf than town but still
Then vote there
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 3:01 AM
oh its tomarrow
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 3:01 AM
past midnight lol
03:01
ima sleep
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Sigh x2
03:01
10 hours for eod right?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 3:01 AM
I need to wake in 4 hours
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Damn go to sleep!!
03:02
Lol
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I start work soon so wish me luck
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 3:02 AM
fine
03:02
good luck
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Gl both
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Ngekop
Like if there’s a mafia rb i dont see it as wasting a n1 rb (which includes a supposedly outed vig claim…) just for a maf to claim it and get town cred yk?
Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 4:35 AM
Someone claimed vigi?
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how paradox 03/30/2023 5:58 AM
crazy
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 7:03 AM
Hate to be that guy but... @Lunexia on Osu! you counted me & Psy's vote ≈_≈
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Middle Man 5k
Hate to be that guy but... @Lunexia on Osu! you counted me & Psy's vote ≈_≈
Lunexia on Osu! 03/30/2023 7:04 AM
I am mentally ill
07:04
Thanks
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 7:04 AM
Np CH_oops
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 7:17 AM
Alright hows
07:17
Hoes
07:17
Its me
07:18
Lets start with the simple stuff Voting giles?
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Giles Corey 03/30/2023 7:18 AM
No
07:18
Next question please
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 7:18 AM
I mean
07:18
Why
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Giles Corey 03/30/2023 7:19 AM
I think it would be better if someone who wasn’t me explained it but since I’m here
07:23
Basically EoD1 was a clusterfuck in the last 10 minutes and votes were being thrown all over the place. In the last 2 minutes it was clear it was either going to be me (who hasn’t claimed) or Paint (who vaguely claimed PR in response to being voted). I voted paint because I’m not self voting and Karcin also switched votes in the last minute, leading to a paint lynch. Paint was tracker. This led to people voting me because me and Karcin “could be a pair”.
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Giles Corey 03/30/2023 7:30 AM
Hey wait a second you’re karcin now
09:11
I would like to contribute to this game, I shalt continue doing reads
09:11
On karcin because the first time I couldnt extract his message last i.e
09:11
Time
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Ohhhh Ile’s here
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Middle Man 5k
Someone claimed vigi?
The doc
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 9:37 AM
Ah
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Lets start with the simple stuff Voting giles?
Your slot is voting me tho
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 9:38 AM
Eh there fone
09:38
Fine
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Giles Corey
Basically EoD1 was a clusterfuck in the last 10 minutes and votes were being thrown all over the place. In the last 2 minutes it was clear it was either going to be me (who hasn’t claimed) or Paint (who vaguely claimed PR in response to being voted). I voted paint because I’m not self voting and Karcin also switched votes in the last minute, leading to a paint lynch. Paint was tracker. This led to people voting me because me and Karcin “could be a pair”.
Wait NAH it wasnt clear
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 9:38 AM
No reason to be concerned about it
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There were FOUR active people with Atoms leading
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 9:39 AM
Hmm
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 9:39 AM
So why giles
09:39
If atoms was leading
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Dude you literally just hosted a game where we flipped a 5-1-1 on cit to 3-2-1 in roleblocker
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
If atoms was leading
Fhpov when there was fr like 10 seconds til eod it was either Paint or him
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Giles Corey
Basically EoD1 was a clusterfuck in the last 10 minutes and votes were being thrown all over the place. In the last 2 minutes it was clear it was either going to be me (who hasn’t claimed) or Paint (who vaguely claimed PR in response to being voted). I voted paint because I’m not self voting and Karcin also switched votes in the last minute, leading to a paint lynch. Paint was tracker. This led to people voting me because me and Karcin “could be a pair”.
People = pigeon and alex bruh
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
No reason to be concerned about it
Im not really, just telling you where your vote is placed atm lol
09:43
Like letting you know
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On shift
09:44
Placing vote so I havr my vote down
09:44
Finish in 3 hes
09:44
Hrs
09:44
Day probs ends before theb
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Lol mel
09:45
Day ends in 195 minutes
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
So why giles
AnimePigeon 03/30/2023 9:45 AM
Giles & your slot both moved on EOD 1 Late to get the vote onto Paint - Piggybacking another's Vote. Paint subsequently died - Mafia killed Atom, who was voting Giles (so was Paint) I think that's a good enough reason to suspect Giles and your slot to a certain extent.
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What does alas mean?
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Ngekop
What does alas mean?
AnimePigeon 03/30/2023 9:49 AM
I've already explained - Giles and Karcin Seat 💺 seem to have manufactured a save - at the time near the end, Giles was in line for being Voted off - then it pivoted to Paint.
09:49
No like
09:50
What does “alas” mean
09:51
@LilyBottom 🌺 you’re voting gappy btw
09:51
(Still)
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Its fine
09:52
I identify as Jestee
09:52
Jester
09:53
Want me to vote you too? I always wanted to see a fool/jester win
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Man I wish I were jester
09:53
Because I would be winning most of the game I played
09:53
Since... y'know, people tends to push me
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I tr’d you in the upick game :(
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Ngekop
Want me to vote you too? I always wanted to see a fool/jester win
I am Town cit
09:54
So no
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Why are you claiming your role?
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Ngekop
@LilyBottom 🌺 you’re voting gappy btw
Anyways just pointing that out bc lily made that vote as a joke so idt she’d want to keep it until eod
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I need people alive
10:02
@Alive line MA
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School
10:03
When do you finish?
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After eod
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So I’ll prove itd not me now
10:06
My proof: it’s not me trust guys
10:06
Game rule #8 is Giles Corey is never factional evil
10:07
I think 5k is scum
10:07
Ok bye
10:08
Also
10:08
Putting my vote there before it’s too late
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Nah wait what
10:08
Bro why are you voting the rb’d claim
10:10
Omg
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 10:11 AM
Whos 5k…
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Middle Man
10:11
Context: his slot was also Tactical/Psycho
10:13
Im the only voter not voting rn
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Ngekop
@LilyBottom 🌺 you’re voting gappy btw
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 10:30 AM
oh right lol
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Ngekop
What does “alas” mean
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 10:33 AM
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Alas, I am inside your wall
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Giles Corey
Game rule #8 is Giles Corey is never factional evil
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 10:34 AM
Oh! I wana test this!
10:40
ok jokes aside
10:40
I...
10:40
I don't know who to vote
10:40
OH
10:40
ile replaced Karcin
10:41
ok that makes sence
10:41
ima reread them with that in mind
10:42
uh
10:42
very pasive still
10:42
which dose make sence it is ile... and wellshe just joined.
10:43
I should be here EoD so I might change it but for now...
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LilyBottom 🌺
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Huh i thought it was smth like asap as in each letter having a meaning
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Ngekop
Huh i thought it was smth like asap as in each letter having a meaning
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 10:45 AM
ah, no its a relic from old English, usaly used to add a bit a hummor or to sound old timey
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LilyBottom 🌺
Oh! I wana test this!
Oh the vote on giles was a joke too
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LilyBottom 🌺
I should be here EoD so I might change it but for now...
Good
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 10:59 AM
Hmm
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 11:14 AM
Hello!
11:14
So Giles is still top wagon....
11:16
Well yes but
11:17
Can we flip this to ile/pigeon/cait?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 11:19 AM
Ile is my top choice
11:19
pigeon is also fine. less keen on cait
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Oh new pfp
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LilyBottom 🌺
pigeon is also fine. less keen on cait
Iso her and get back to me
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Ngekop
Iso her and get back to me
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 11:32 AM
ok ig, like I have been reading them...
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I mean i was
11:33
Isoing her again
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Ngekop
Can we flip this to ile/pigeon/cait?
After sending this
11:33
And it’s kinda interesting
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I mean if it comes down to this im voting ile and rnging it so
12:01
Can someone please
12:02
Come here?
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@Alive line MA
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:14 PM
UwU
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Ngekop
I mean if it comes down to this im voting ile and rnging it so
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:15 PM
rng is kind of annoying, but if you don't want giles lynched then I would go for it
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I really…dont feel like getting giles
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LilyBottom 🌺
rng is kind of annoying, but if you don't want giles lynched then I would go for it
Yeah exactly
12:16
I hate rng
12:16
So much
12:16
It would be better if we just had more people here
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:17 PM
ya, but its kinda close to wait
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I mean im not exactly waiting im here
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:17 PM
I mean for more peeps
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Yeah ik
12:18
This is annoying im ngl
12:18
Giles’s flip to 5k was weird but as maf with 3 votes
12:19
I dont see a reasonable logic for him to move to 5k when pigeon is a push more likely to go through today
12:19
Why turning a 3-2 into a 3-1?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:20 PM
maybe they are like both mafia and he is trying to distence?
12:20
idk
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(From pigeon, someone who is at least null to everyone, to 5k, someone id rather leave alive bc if MH is godfather for example then he’d just be clear imo)
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LilyBottom 🌺
maybe they are like both mafia and he is trying to distence?
Giles and who?
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:21 PM
like he cant get the people on him off becuse they are not here, so try and set up a better situation
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Ngekop
Giles and who?
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:21 PM
5K
12:21
idk its just a thought
12:22
like mafia that was rb'd + voted my mafia will lock town in alot of heads
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I mean i already stated before i dont really want giles
12:22
So has cait and mel for example
12:22
So idt it was even close to a lost cause for him
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:23 PM
I mean... look at it
12:23
he saw who was on him and the rest of use arnt counter wagoning
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LilyBottom 🌺
like mafia that was rb'd + voted my mafia will lock town in alot of heads
I dont see
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An escort rb’ing tactical yday
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Ngl
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:24 PM
Two votes?
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Hi ile
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:24 PM
Ah ty for ur amazing input
12:24
Totally helpful
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trolley
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hypersweat
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Ngekop
An escort rb’ing tactical yday
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:25 PM
I mean, like pepole somtime just andom see if it sticks
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This is a 3-2-2-1
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Rn
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:25 PM
Isnt
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Voting
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Someone to keep yourself alove
12:25
What was being criticized of giles
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Giles-you/me-5k/pigeon
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:25 PM
KEK KEK KEK
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Ngekop
This is a 3-2-2-1
3-2-2-1-1
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***
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:25 PM
Theres only
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
What was being criticized of giles
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:25 PM
I think thats the biggest thing ya
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:26 PM
Two people
12:26
On ng
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Ok I have lunch to talk equipment
12:26
Rq
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:26 PM
But nge hypocritical wild
12:26
Couldnt have predicted that
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
What was being criticized of giles
It’s different bc he voted the TI claim
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Ngekop
It’s different bc he voted the TI claim
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:26 PM
If he knows
12:26
He is town
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:26 PM
Why doesnt he always vote that
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I know
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Thought
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Though
12:27
Ur points
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Is back!!
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Irrelavant
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It is not my point
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I voted 5k because I didn’t like their response to being rbd, along with there being a 60% chance he’s evil if he’s not cit, which I don’t think he is because he slipped
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Ur pointless
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I have discredited that point like 10 times
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Misleading
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No im not
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Yes
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Ngekop
It’s different bc he voted the TI claim
I didn’t realize he claimed TI until it was pointed out at the start of D2
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
But nge hypocritical wild
Shut up
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Giles Corey
I voted 5k because I didn’t like their response to being rbd, along with there being a 60% chance he’s evil if he’s not cit, which I don’t think he is because he slipped
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
where are you getting 60% from?
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Giles Corey
I voted 5k because I didn’t like their response to being rbd, along with there being a 60% chance he’s evil if he’s not cit, which I don’t think he is because he slipped
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
“Theres a 60% he is evil if not cit”
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You
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LilyBottom 🌺
where are you getting 60% from?
2 prs, 3 mafia members
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
Are gonna make
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Me jump off a roof
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3/5
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IM LITERALLY TRYING TO LEAD AWAY FROM GILES
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Ile
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Giles Corey
2 prs, 3 mafia members
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:28 PM
he could be cit... no?
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LilyBottom 🌺
he could be cit... no?
He slipped
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:28 PM
oh I didn't see that
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@ile, the Goddess of Sloth
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He called cit VT off the bat, which a new player would not do upon getting the cit role card
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:28 PM
Well im not moving my vote
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I trust
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FuckYou
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That may be a stretch but that’s totally a slip to me
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Why doesnt he always vote that
Everyone would exactly
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Ngekop
Everyone would exactly
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:29 PM
Alr chill
12:29
Who was pushing giles
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And my mobile discord is bugging one second
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:29 PM
In first place
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Giles Corey
He called cit VT off the bat, which a new player would not do upon getting the cit role card
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:29 PM
I mean... mel calls mafia wolf all the time... its not tdefinitive
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Giles Corey
I voted 5k because I didn’t like their response to being rbd, along with there being a 60% chance he’s evil if he’s not cit, which I don’t think he is because he slipped
Bro
12:29
Idk why i feel like
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:29 PM
ok gtg sorry
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean... mel calls mafia wolf all the time... its not tdefinitive
Mel is very experienced and has played here often
12:29
That is completely different
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The guy could easily be pr
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Who did smth dumb
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And claimed rb’d too
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He never denied it when I pointed it out either
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Tell me how does that come from a scum perspective
12:30
Claiming rb’d there
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Ngekop
And claimed rb’d too
His predecessor claimed rbd, he took forever to check and make sure he was rbd
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Giles Corey
I didn’t realize he claimed TI until it was pointed out at the start of D2
I KNOW
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Which was a red flag for me
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Im saying people like pigeon and alex are accusing you on that
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I suspected that he’s lying
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For ile’s information
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And wasn’t actually rbd
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Not saying you are maf bc of it
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And was asking the other mafia to be sure
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
In first place
Pigeon and alex
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LilyBottom 🌺
I mean... mel calls mafia wolf all the time... its not tdefinitive
Mel isnt new tho
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I suspect that the mafia is made up of 1 experienced player (out of the top 5 most experienced players) and 2 less so experienced players who are following what the experienced player is telling them to do
12:32
That’s just a gut feeling
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Giles Corey
That is completely different
Yeah no i agree with giles’s argument but idc about odds when imo that input from 5k is way more likely to com from a pr than from a maf imo
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I don’t agree and think it’s a play, however I see that keeping my vote on 5k is a death wish if no one wants to switch
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Giles Corey
And wasn’t actually rbd
Why would he confirm it then tho
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Giles Corey
And was asking the other mafia to be sure
Ok fair
12:33
Still tho
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Ngekop
Why would he confirm it then tho
Because it would be sus as hell to deny something that your predecessor confirmed
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Why would a maf claim rbd in the first place
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Look at what I did when I replaced bob at the scp game
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He claimed he checked Duncan when he didn’t and I was sus for that
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Giles Corey
I suspect that the mafia is made up of 1 experienced player (out of the top 5 most experienced players) and 2 less so experienced players who are following what the experienced player is telling them to do
Same
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Ngekop
Why would a maf claim rbd in the first place
Mafia would claim rbd to act like a PR
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Giles Corey
I don’t agree and think it’s a play, however I see that keeping my vote on 5k is a death wish if no one wants to switch
Indeed 💀
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Or even a cit
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Giles Corey
Look at what I did when I replaced bob at the scp game
Was i there?
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No clue
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It was very recent
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Basically I replaced bob who claimed he checked Duncan when he didn’t
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The only game i remember playing with duncan was the upick
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I told everyone bob never checked them and I was sus
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Giles Corey
Mafia would claim rbd to act like a PR
But they wouldnt sacrifice a rb night not roleblocking to do that
12:35
Only chance imo is what lily or what i said
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Ngekop
But they wouldnt sacrifice a rb night not roleblocking to do that
They don’t need to have a consort if they have a capo
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Giles Corey
They don’t need to have a consort if they have a capo
Yeah
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Then they switch to a consort tonight
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But it is still then potentially clear if we get MH and flips godfather
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If we get GF then yes I agree
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Giles Corey
Then they switch to a consort tonight
Yeah that’s what i said
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Giles Corey
If we get GF then yes I agree
Well then why not going after it in a ml situation?
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Wym
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@Lunexia on Osu!
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Wtf?
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Cait isnt voting 5k
12:37
She is voting ile
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I’m not sure Karcin/Ile would be convinced as a town member that easy to switch that quickly
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Giles Corey
Wym
If we go outside it’s fine bc we are not in lylo and we can save someone who can be potential semiclear if a gf flips
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I think that since I’m not voting myself and I have options between 2 people
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20 minutes left tho
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I think karcin is more suspicious
12:40
I thought it was an hour 20
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Look at the third message up in #ma46-info
12:40
Nvm
12:40
Ur right
12:40
That makes it easier
12:41
Ok
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:41 PM
Ph
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Oh
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I can maybe be there for the end of it’s at 11
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:41 PM
Lets try not to die instantly
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12* my time
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:41 PM
Shall we
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Vote pigeon
12:41
I think
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:41 PM
Why?
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Because
12:41
He spent tunneling me a day
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Then flipped in 2 seconds
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To karcin so easily
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:41 PM
I dont hyper care if I die I have 20 minutes to write out the entire scum team
12:42
So
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Someone i think is in no way teamed with me from anyone’s pov atp
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:42 PM
No point in switching vote for me
12:42
Tbh
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Saying he still felt off on me
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:42 PM
I still have most votes
12:42
But
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Giles weird change there
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
No point in switching vote for me
Giles can switch to pigeon too
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:42 PM
Idk whats happening there
12:43
He can switch first kekw
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You both are tied rn with 3 votes
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:43 PM
No
12:43
Pigeon has one vote on him
12:44
Oh
12:44
Me and giles
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Yes
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:44 PM
Lmao on that case
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Bye giles
12:44
No
12:44
Omfg
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:44 PM
lmao
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THIS ISNT NECESSARILY ILE VS GILES
12:44
Rn
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:44 PM
It probably isnt but ugh
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How did we lynch our pr again
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Bc your slot hammered it last minute
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:45 PM
Oy
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@ile, the Goddess of Sloth let’s compromise since I don’t like dying and you probably don’t either
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:45 PM
Wtf was karcij pn
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:45 PM
Im fine
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With pigeon
12:45
Then
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One more to avoid rng with giles
12:46
@LilyBottom 🌺
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:46 PM
Ay lily
12:46
Kill the birds
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:47 PM
Lets be like china
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But we dont die from disease
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At this point I better claim
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Sheriff
12:47
Gappy is Innocent
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Wait
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If you are sheriff and you die
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I get lynched
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:48 PM
was there a @ alive ping?
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Bc if any you softed maf on me
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AnimePigeon
Sheriff
Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:48 PM
HC?
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@Alive line MA
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Middle Man 5k
HC?
Yes - Hard Claim
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AnimePigeon
Yes - Hard Claim
Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:49 PM
interesting
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Hence why I said Gappy is good earlier
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THIS CROSS SUCKS
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AnimePigeon
Hence why I said Gappy is good earlier
Wait where
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Just want to point out
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Ok so that means middle man is the last PR or 1 of 3 mafia
12:49
3/4 now
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:49 PM
Idk
12:49
I have this
12:49
Huntch
12:50
IF I KILL ANOTHER PR THIS GAME THAN THE TOWNS GREATEST ENEMY WAS ITSELF
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Roll a d4
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:50 PM
SO THERES NO WAY
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We are more than enough
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:50 PM
HE IS PR
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To vote anyone
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Even someone with 0 votes
12:50
Who is melan??
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Mel
12:50
wait why mel
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Idk it’s their gut feeling
12:51
We all have them
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Mine is how
12:51
And also 5k
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:51 PM
Honestly
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Same
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5k neutral on
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Then i can
12:51
Do that too
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But mostly how
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On
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Pigeon!
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Because 5k isn’t a gut feeling because i gave a reason
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:52 PM
Can we do how
12:52
Pigeon on cait
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I dont sr how
12:52
Btw
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:52 PM
I dont want to vote cait yet
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
I dont want to vote cait yet
I don’t think that’s how you spell how
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I dont want how
12:52
If we go there
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Giles Corey
Because 5k isn’t a gut feeling because i gave a reason
Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:52 PM
what'sdebatable darisus
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:52 PM
Im fine with how
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:52 PM
*debatable
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Im not
12:54
MEL IS HERE
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AnimePigeon
Sheriff
They seeded this
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I thought u had a red on nge
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You definitely insinuated it
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I legit thought i could be
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Framed or smth
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Either way u die tonight so its useless to votr them
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Mel save me please ☹
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Giles Corey
Mel save me please ☹
Nah
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Mel
You definitely insinuated it
EVEN I GOT THIS AND I AM TOWN
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:55 PM
5 minutes
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That’s why my TvS existed betwren u both
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I finish work in 5 mins lol
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Then what’s the new thing?
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Great timing fr
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You had me as null+ wouldn’t you rather get someone else
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Ngekop
Then what’s the new thing?
Hm?
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Giles Corey
You had me as null+ wouldn’t you rather get someone else
Better than Karcins slot
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Ngekop
@LilyBottom 🌺
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:55 PM
hello!
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Mel
That’s why my TvS existed betwren u both
^^
12:55
Pigeon claimed cop
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I thought he red checked u
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:55 PM
how is everyone aways here when I am not
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How inno
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Gappy inno
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****
12:56
NOT HOW
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:56 PM
wait
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Mel
Better than Karcins slot
I’m not saying karcin
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Gappy*
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Ngekop
Pigeon claimed cop
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:56 PM
oh?
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Ngekop
Pigeon claimed cop
Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:56 PM
wh
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GAPPY INNO
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Is giles Gappy
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Ngekop
Pigeon claimed cop
sheriff*
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No
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:56 PM
no
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What’s the issue then
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Happy is yellow name
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Gappy
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Ngekop
GAPPY INNO
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:56 PM
why are you yelling?
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The issue is I’m toenail be being voted alto correct sucks
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Bc i said the report bad
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The issue is I’m town and 4 minutes from being voted
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
We have
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Wtf
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Ngekop
Bc i said the report bad
Wut
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
My force
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I sense
12:57
Its lily
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So I’d like for that
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Not to happen
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
KEK KEK KEK
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
I sense
Ur force is dumb u voted me
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Mel
Wut
I said how inno when it was gappy inno
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Ngekop
I said how inno when it was gappy inno
Ok
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
If i somehow die from all this its lily mel And last ones like ???
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Nice allowing scum to frane
12:57
Well done ile well done
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Can we all come together and vote someone (who’s not me)
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
If i somehow die from all this its lily mel And last ones like ???
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
what did i do?
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oh right
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Ok i seriously
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Giles Corey
Can we all come together and vote someone (who’s not me)
Sure. Nge
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
vote you lol
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Ile is dumb
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Mel stfu
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As in the wagon isndumb
12:58
No
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Giles Corey
Can we all come together and vote someone (who’s not me)
Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
NoBegone
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I agree
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You shhut the fuck up
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But no one is
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
No
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Joining cait
12:58
Either
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Ile wtf
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
why are you voting how @Giles Corey?
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
hey
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I WANT CAITLIN
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
Its mel lily and caits by themselves
12:58
Sorry giles gotta tie
12:58
It
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NO ONE LISTENS
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LilyBottom 🌺
why are you voting how @Giles Corey?
Gut feeling and I’m trying anything to not die
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Its mel lily and caits by themselves
Alr so this game is lost
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:58 PM
Wait
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Its tied
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AND IM NOT GETTING GILES
12:59
All ofn u
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:59 PM
Nge unvote me
12:59
And calm down
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Mel
Alr so this game is lost
Mel why on earth
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Giles Corey
Gut feeling and I’m trying anything to not die
LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:59 PM
I mean wouldnt ile be better? idk
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If you flip
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To cait
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I flip
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Rn
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Omfg
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:59 PM
tick tock
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:59 PM
I will too
12:59
Hammer
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/30/2023 12:59 PM
Lilys evil if i die
12:59
To rng
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 12:59 PM
?
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LOL RNG
13:00
LMFAO
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Middle Man 5k 03/30/2023 1:00 PM
bro mel is on google docs WHYYYyyytroll
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/30/2023 1:00 PM
EoD
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/30/2023 1:00 PM
EoD UwU
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LilyBottom 🌺
EoD UwU
Lunexia on Osu! 03/30/2023 1:17 PM
admin abuse, plez demoot
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/31/2023 12:53 PM
Day 3 Top
Majority = 5
(edited)
Lunexia on Osu! pinned a message to this channel. 03/31/2023 12:53 PM
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Lunexia on Osu! 03/31/2023 12:59 PM
@Alive line MA go ahead
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:00 PM
I was right
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Now we vote lily
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 1:00 PM
Thanks 5k
13:00
So I got attacked an Defended
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I also investigated Ngekop, no surprise - Innocent - but Godfather shows as Innocent.
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Nice to know my gut feeling on Ngekop was right - even if I couldn't explain it fully
13:02
He didn't seem too worried or fussed about a potential investigation
13:02
So something seemed off
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Next time listen to me
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Now we vote lily
Piss off
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AnimePigeon
I also investigated Ngekop, no surprise - Innocent - but Godfather shows as Innocent.
Are you kidding
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Lmfao
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OH
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:06 PM
Third
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Oh yo
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Literally didn’t recall a TI slot itself
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Mv
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Mb
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Now we vote lily
LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:07 PM
Wdym you were right? I wanted to vote you... not gile
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AnimePigeon
Nice to know my gut feeling on Ngekop was right - even if I couldn't explain it fully
I’ve been explaining it since day fucking 1 start and nobody listened
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:08 PM
Oh I see
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Ya I had a feeling Nge was sus... just not as high priority
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Oh I was pared with him wasn't I
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Fuck
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I wanted to feel prideful but their wolf flip just pissed me off
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 1:09 PM
Depresso Expresso
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:09 PM
Ok... so there are 2 more Mafia right?
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It might be a quite person... it's probably how lol
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Mel
Piss off
Lunexia on Osu! 03/31/2023 1:10 PM
Please be nice to people @Mel
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pleading
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:11 PM
Ima back read when I get to my computer
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I just got our the shower
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Who’s remaining
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So its not pig or Gappy
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Not me
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Not Karcins slot
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Pig as in short for pigeon not calling u a pig
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Soft G
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Cait, how, lily, mel, alex, pigeon, happy, ile
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Not me pig gap ile
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Cait how lily alex is the pool
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50% wolves as long as my reads are correct
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We won’t be getting any invests anymore
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Nor will anybody that isn’t confirmed will die
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:21 PM
Well
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Ile probably throws this game
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Hi ile
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:21 PM
Yall wanted to lymch me because
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:21 PM
I was throwing
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Heat on nge
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KEK KEK KEK
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
I was throwing
I was the one hard pushing against ur slot
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:21 PM
Lets not be short sighted here
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Heat on nge
As was I dumbass
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The whole game
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:21 PM
Oh well
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Theres a reason im voting u last
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Gtg rehersal
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Have fun
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Lunexia on Osu!
Please be nice to people @Mel
No u
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:23 PM
Nvm just orchestra playing rn
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:23 PM
How and Cait are my knee junk reaction...
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For evils I mean
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6v2. 5v2 4v2 3v2 2 MLs left
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:23 PM
Still need to back read
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:23 PM
I wanna see cait on but how is also a ??? In the slot
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We can wipe 3/4 of the poe
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 03/31/2023 1:23 PM
So im not reading into it
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Mel
6v2. 5v2 4v2 3v2 2 MLs left
LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:23 PM
Oh that's good
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LilyBottom 🌺
How and Cait are my knee junk reaction...
Cait and Nge had really shitty interactions
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So it’s probably them
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Alex/how
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Latter is unreadable
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Former is fairly scummy in their own right
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Yeah it’s probably just cait and alrx
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Caits content is probably not kuch to go on in regards to reading them as they’re pretty convincing ad wolf when they’re invested
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Just the way they treated nge is not a great look
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Also imagine me fighting against two people to read a person differently when they’re both wolves
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Would justify the feeling of frustration I had
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And how it felt like a brick wall
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As they both pushjng the same agenda
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Lily here sided with me somewhat
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Which is maybe a pocket thing but that can be handled later
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I’d rather have alex and lily in endgame
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Than how
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At all
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So I’m either voting how today or them tomorrow
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No matter what they need to die before LyLo
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Mel
Lily here sided with me somewhat
My main point here as that they weren’t like a brick wall
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 1:30 PM
sorry I thing came up, ill be back latter
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No worries I’m on shift so I shouldn’t be talking at all lol
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Mel
Pig as in short for pigeon not calling u a pig
AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 1:37 PM
Yeah no worries 🙂 pig/pidge anything's good
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AnimePigeon
Yeah no worries 🙂 pig/pidge anything's good
Thoughts on the gamestate?
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Where do you stand
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Mel
Thoughts on the gamestate?
AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:49 PM
Hmm 🤔 I'm inclined to think that Caitlin could be Evil at this Juncture. I know Gappy is Innocent Confirmed with the Ngekop Reveal - Wasted my last View on Ngekop.
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Yeah that woulda made them almost win
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If BG didn’t kill them
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Hmm 🤔 I'm inclined to think that Caitlin could be Evil at this Juncture. I know Gappy is Innocent Confirmed with the Ngekop Reveal - Wasted my last View on Ngekop.
Why Cait
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:51 PM
Well - not necessarily
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AnimePigeon
Well - not necessarily
They were already hard to push
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With a green as well? Not happening
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:52 PM
They were hard to push - but not for a particularly good reason
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Are you serious
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:53 PM
No idea how anyone can contribute 61 pages of chat
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I was calling out their scummy behaviour with reason backibg it up sincr early day 1. Nobody ever barely listened
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AnimePigeon
No idea how anyone can contribute 61 pages of chat
High posters are common here
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Me
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Nge
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Cait
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Lune
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Sam
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Diso
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Me less so this game but enough to prove a point
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Ur argument was meaningless
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:55 PM
Fair
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But not being from here I can understand it
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It’s just not any good reasonings for select few people who high post in most games, and those that they do/dont are NAI
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:58 PM
I feel - assuming Karcin Seat 💺 is a scapegoat and considering the end state of yesterdays vote - Caitlin leading the charge with Ngekop supporting late could explain the vote tally ending how it did.
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Mel
It’s just not any good reasonings for select few people who high post in most games, and those that they do/dont are NAI
AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 2:59 PM
It wasn't just that though - it's hard to put into words sometimes but even with some expletives, I could follow and appreciate your viewpoints. Ngekop, not so much, his defence felt weak and a little too comfortable with the possibility of a TI viewing them.
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Yeah because nobody really listens to logic anymore
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Or has the skill or understanding to follow ot
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Sadge no responses
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AnimePigeon 03/31/2023 4:25 PM
Apologies - had a pretty shitty day and work and been in and out of sleeping after it.
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At work*
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Guess it's just the Mel and Ani/Pig show
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hih
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AnimePigeon
Guess it's just the Mel and Ani/Pig show
Gotta love it
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I'll carry for u dw dw
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how paradox 03/31/2023 9:28 PM
hi
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how paradox
hi
Ur dying today or tomorrow with no doubts if you do not start contributing
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Either before or after Cait
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D:
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LilyBottom 🌺 03/31/2023 10:55 PM
Sorry yall
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Been busy
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how paradox 04/01/2023 8:35 AM
@Alive line MA *cough-8
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cough
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Its cold out here isn’t?
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All the more reason to warm ourselves up with a game
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If someone claim themselves to be Town or Neutral
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I get 5$ from all of you.
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If someone claimed themselves to be mafia
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One of you get 5$ from me
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@how paradox whats your role
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1091436276860866640 - Pigeon Meanwhile Giles was voted out and flipped town, so why are you picking on a wagon that we don't even know of whether it was voting town or mafia?
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There were 3 mafia yesterday
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No way the Giles wagon was pure
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1091412599398219882 - Mel I townread Nge due to our fights yea because he felt genuine during them, but I think saying we'd be SvS is pretty ridiculous
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Ngekop tried to CFD me not once
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But twice
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How/Alex I both suspect
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How is frozen af
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Lately he's been doing more in games
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But this game, not at all
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Alex I earlier called out on possibly being a team with Ngekop
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And well, Ngekop was mafia
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1091436276860866640 - Pigeon Meanwhile Giles was voted out and flipped town, so why are you picking on a wagon that we don't even know of whether it was voting town or mafia?
AnimePigeon 04/01/2023 9:58 AM
Look here's how it is - Oofers thought that Giles was Evil. The Vote Switch at the end of day 1 seemed fishy. Fair it didn't work out and it was wrong. However my gut feeling since I subbed in was Ngekop, seemed like he was trying to compensate for something or make it seem like he didn't know the situation.
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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1088882223865933855/1091411928011784353 - Ile No, I wanted to lynch you because your slot voted Paint after he claimed
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AnimePigeon
Look here's how it is - Oofers thought that Giles was Evil. The Vote Switch at the end of day 1 seemed fishy. Fair it didn't work out and it was wrong. However my gut feeling since I subbed in was Ngekop, seemed like he was trying to compensate for something or make it seem like he didn't know the situation.
How did it seem fishy tho?
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He was the countervote
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So he knew for sure he was town
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Whereas Paint wasn't confirmed
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Caitlin
How did it seem fishy tho?
AnimePigeon 04/01/2023 9:59 AM
It seemed very coordinated with Iles Slot
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Karcin mainly switched without reason
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AnimePigeon
It seemed very coordinated with Iles Slot
But why would the slot that had no reason for switching, be the bad wagon
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And the slot that didn't do something sus, pushed by all town?
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That makes no sense
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Reason why I think Alex could be mafia here:
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- Ngekop constantly said Alex was sus, and kept her in his PoE - Yet, whenever someone would consider Alex as a target, Ngekop would immediatly shoot it down
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Seems like he wanted Alex to stay alive, yet also wanted to distance
10:02
And now we know Ngekop is mafia, that's a bad point for Alex
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Lily & Gappy are my legacy townreads
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Gappy
@how paradox whats your role
citizen
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Impossible
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There are only PR slots left
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So that's a scumslip
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@how paradox
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ever heard of lying buckaroo
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So you're not Citizen?
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i am
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im jusr saying
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someone could have lied
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shrugg
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They are dead
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So Idk
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Idt lying seems that likely
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Day 2 + Giles - Town Citizen
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idk what to tell you
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im jusr citizen
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I hoped you'd scumslip
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huh
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Caitlin
Lily & Gappy are my legacy townreads
Add 5k to that
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With Pigeon being the final PR (they're not cc'd)
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5k must have been roleblocked by a Consort
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Or pranked by a Prankster
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how paradox
huh
You only can be Citizen or mafia
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So I was hoping you'd claim a PR role
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Pigeon seems to be the final PR confirmed
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And the other 3 PRs are dead
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Day 2 VC Final Ile: 4 - Caitlin, Lily, Ngekop, Giles Ngekop: 1 - Melancholic Giles: 4 - Alex, Pigeon, 5k, Ile Abstaining: 2 - How, Gappy One in Alex/Pigeon/Ile -> Realistically probably in Alex/Ile Mel/Pigeon/How/Gappy prob contains max 1 mafia, 0 if it's just Alex+Ile. How would be my prime suspect of those 4
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But not Gappy too ngl
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Missed that
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Gappy indeed is just town then!
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WAIT
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5k is
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Dead
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Ile: 4 - Caitlin, Lily, Ngekop, Giles Ngekop: 1 - Melancholic Giles: 4 - Alex, Pigeon, 5k, Ile Abstaining: 2 - How, Gappy
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how paradox
citizen
Pay up.
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Everyone pay up
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I won the game
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Pro Gappy
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Caitlin
Ile: 4 - Caitlin, Lily, Ngekop, Giles Ngekop: 1 - Melancholic Giles: 4 - Alex, Pigeon, 5k, Ile Abstaining: 2 - How, Gappy
why am I abstaining…
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You didn't vote someone D2
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Why were you abstaining
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well damned
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Caitlin
Why were you abstaining
I just..
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don’t know who to vote
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Spoiler: Alex, Ile and How are good votes
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spilers
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i am following your vote
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W vote
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If I get sussed by it I will haunt you
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I will tear you limb from limb
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It's a good vote
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Break you aparty
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Ngekop pushed & defended Alex
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Scatters your remain across the stars
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Which is rlly weird I Feel
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Gappy
Break you aparty
Is that the new Mario Party
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Until your very remain crys out for mercy
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Break you a Party?
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Gappy
Until your very remain crys out for mercy
Damn
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huh
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Day 1 VC 4 Atoms: 5 - Paint, Caitlin, Lily, Pigeon, Giles Paint: 1 - Alex Ngekop: 2 - Mel, Ile Pigeon: 1 - 5k Caitlin: 1 - Ngekop This gives a better look to Mel & Ile but a worse look to Lily & Pigeon
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how paradox
huh
Who is mafia
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you /j
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how paradox
you /j
sus
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Day 1 VC Final Atoms: 1 - Pigeon Paint: 3 - Alex, Caitlin, Giles Ngekop: 2 - Mel, Ile Pigeon: 1 - 5k Giles: 2 - Atoms, Paint Ile: 1 - Ngekop VC if the late votes are counted (mafia may have assumed they wouldn't, Ngekop def assumed they didn't) Atoms: 1 - Pigeon Paint: 4 - Alex, Caitlin, Giles, Ile Ngekop: 1 - Mel Pigeon: 1 - 5k Giles: 2 - Atoms, Paint
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This worsens the look on Ile to me
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Karcin voted Paint at first as we all know
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But only changed to Ngekop after the EoD should've happened
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Possibly because they thought the vote wouldn't count and thus wouldn't endanger Ngekop
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And Ngekop also was clearly out at danger at that pt too
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So my solve here is just Ile+Alex
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/01/2023 2:23 PM
Ile really wanted to vote me start of game
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Fay
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Day
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Also hi I am no longer dead
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AnimePigeon 04/01/2023 2:57 PM
Woop Woop
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Caitlin
This worsens the look on Ile to me
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 4:42 PM
rah rah rah its hard being wrong but anyways the vc mattered naught it was me aka cit vs cit so i voted the cit so i lived because i can confirm that i am indeed citizen nge also did vote me last minute because he prob figured im more of a threat
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doesnt matter either way
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and hey
16:42
i still want to vote lily
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/01/2023 4:56 PM
honestly I understand why ile want me dead
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I probably would to
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@Caitlin how are u not opting for PLing how rn
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LilyBottom 🌺
Also hi I am no longer dead
W
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
rah rah rah its hard being wrong but anyways the vc mattered naught it was me aka cit vs cit so i voted the cit so i lived because i can confirm that i am indeed citizen nge also did vote me last minute because he prob figured im more of a threat
Mafia still could vote diff people tho
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And with Ngekop already on you, imo there's no reason to somehow clear the entire Giles wagon?
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Giles flipped town, after all
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And if you're evil, there is even less reason to clear the entire Giles wagon
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Which is what people are doing for little to no reason
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Mel
@Caitlin how are u not opting for PLing how rn
I suspect Alex/Ile more
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Alex makes alot of sense as Ngekop's teammate
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And Idk why Ile is suddenly being cleared
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That being said
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Idm voting How
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I just figured I might as well make one of my 2 top suspects the countervote rather than making it a PL
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/01/2023 6:57 PM
I think ile is... fine? idk
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let me back read a bit
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I kind of forget the game state
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/01/2023 7:05 PM
idk... kinda like the caitlin vote
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well I got to go
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Idm voting How
how paradox 04/01/2023 7:36 PM
sad face
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I wonder why I don't mind
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Caitlin
I suspect Alex/Ile more
And?
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How is a literal blank
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Would you rather chance a blank or not in LyLo. Or go for Alex etc
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And how the literal fuck are you arguing Ile is ever a wagon when u yourself made the case that you shouldn't be SR because Nge wagoned you or whatnot
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Mel
Would you rather chance a blank or not in LyLo. Or go for Alex etc
It's an even number
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How probably not voting isn't that harmful?
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Did you just TMI them town
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And how the literal fuck are you arguing Ile is ever a wagon when u yourself made the case that you shouldn't be SR because Nge wagoned you or whatnot
Ngekop only voted Karcin after EoD
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And he stated he thought EoD votes wouldn't count
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No?
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You stated it would be LyLo tmrw
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What are you on.
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I'm stating it's MyLo
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And if How is town
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His vote doesn't matter
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That's like not what I said
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Mel
How is a literal blank
?
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Would you rather have to decide a lynch between Alex or somebody you can't read because they've done nothing. Or two players with content
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Mel: Constantly makes no sense Also Mel: Asks someone who it's 3 AM for what they are on
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Piss off
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Scum
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Mel
Would you rather have to decide a lynch between Alex or somebody you can't read because they've done nothing. Or two players with content
I wonder what I prefer
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It might be in the votes channel
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And I also dk what the last remark has to do with it
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So you're just a wolf.
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Alright
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Good to know
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Thanks for claiming
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I'm asking you what the final comment has to do with it?
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Lol
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Atp I think I just prefer voting you
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You're deciding to leave an unknown to LyLo
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You aren't voting How either??
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Caitlin
Atp I think I just prefer voting you
Ah yes the one person who was actively pushing Nge and against Karcin
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Dumbass
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Fuck off
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🖕
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@Alive line MA
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Mel is mafia btw
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So vote him
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You aren't voting How either??
And I am very much planning to. Either you or him. I believe you both to be wolves.
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Mel is mafia btw
Lmfao
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Mel: Cait TMId How town Also Mel: It's Cait+How
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Hilariously stupid
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Contradiction moment
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I said "did you just TMI them town"
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I never said that you did and either way how would I ever know if they were Town
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It seemed like an accusation-
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Mel
I never said that you did and either way how would I ever know if they were Town
Funny
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Do you know basic comprehension skills. And either way, town can contridict themselves.
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:14 PM
i agree but
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i like lily more first
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Mel
Ah yes the one person who was actively pushing Nge and against Karcin
Ngekop literally asked in a diff game to get bussed
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So this Town is dying in a pit of despair.
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Mel
Do you know basic comprehension skills. And either way, town can contridict themselves.
You contradicted yourself in the span of like 2 minutes
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Also did you TMI Ile town
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Because you don't even know Ile's alignment
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So how would pushing to keep her save be a + for you
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Ile is going after a wide swing. Cait is either wolf or is the most idiodic town I've ever witnessed. How is a blank card that needs to die, but probably wont and then a coin toss will happen in LyLo.
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I infact mentioned I scumread Ile just before that
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Also did you TMI Ile town
I've been making it very clear I townread their slot
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Through D2 and D3
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Mel
Ile is going after a wide swing. Cait is either wolf or is the most idiodic town I've ever witnessed. How is a blank card that needs to die, but probably wont and then a coin toss will happen in LyLo.
Boohoo Mel got caught as mafia
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So you're just going to be a cunt, gotcha
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You're a cunt too
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Ile
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Can you change your vote
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I sure do love myself I agree
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I doubt Lily will be voted anyway
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:16 PM
a wide swing? prehaps after all i am indeed the werewolf of werewolf we arent in a good situation to lynch how esp we know at least one other evil is in all the actives
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and we already are getting close
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Ile must be conf scum
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:16 PM
to lylo
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Why would you keep How t oLyLo
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Mel and Pigeon are confscum too then
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And Gappy as well
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a wide swing? prehaps after all i am indeed the werewolf of werewolf we arent in a good situation to lynch how esp we know at least one other evil is in all the actives
Well the point with How is simply to get rid of the nobody earlier rather than later. I'm not actually sure when we'll be hitting the Lylo/Mylo now that I think abt it cuz of the BG kill.
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Cait saying its tomorrow probably means its tomorrow
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3 PRs died
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In which case its probably smart to go for them today.
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Pigeon claims Cop
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It's 6v2
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:17 PM
nge would have been bussing on me for me and than pointed the finger at giles i believe when i fliped town
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let me
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So that means the kill can't be stopped
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:18 PM
remember what nge was doing
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If we lynch a townie today, it'd be 4v2 tmrw
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AKA MyLo
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Cait I made the same line of thought. read the setup again
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TI then three RTs
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Yea?
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What about that
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Caitlin
And Gappy as well
Tf
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There's 3 wolves
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:18 PM
is alex dead
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or alive
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Alex is alive
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Alive
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Mel
There's 3 wolves
I know
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Are you going senile
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I'm mentioning your argument that I was mafia for not voting How
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When
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5 ppl are
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Not voting How?
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:19 PM
huh
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Mel
Are you going senile
No
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:19 PM
karcin really like
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alex
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You just make no sense to pick on me
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Caitlin
I'm mentioning your argument that I was mafia for not voting How
Are you insinuating that's my only reason?
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:19 PM
liked for a lynch
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and read mel as inno
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You accused me for that earlier yes
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And also seemed to think I must be really stupid for not preferring that
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That is not what I fucking asked
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Caitlin
What about that
.
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My reason for you is that your interactions with Nge were absolutely atrocious.
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
remember what nge was doing
Being mafia with Alex and Mel?
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:20 PM
rn mel vs cait is weird its safe to say its never svs but it can tvt
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idrt mel is scum anymore but i do think alex is a safe lynch here
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better than how my a long shot
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by
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I prefer Mel above Alex
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Ile is probably one of my stronger TRs. Lily below that. Excluding Pigeon who is lock town alongside Gapp Cait, How, Alex is my pool. 2/3 is wolves unless I'm wrong on Lily which I doubt.
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:21 PM
most of us seem to have alex somewhere in the pool
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karcin paired alex with nge
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in my conf
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@how paradox What do you read Alex as
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:21 PM
idk why tho
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How is a blank. Cait/Alex are scummy. Cait makes a good argument for Alex though so it may be How/Alex and Cait and me are just butting heads unnecessarily but their interactions with Nge and their state of mind throughout D1 seems unnatural.
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
karcin paired alex with nge
That came from me originally
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
in my conf
Donttttt
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Referrrrr
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To confs
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AHHH
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That's angleshooting
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Ig now if we mislynch it might be LyLo tmrw if Ile gets modkilled
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:22 PM
oh
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my bad
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Caitlin
Ig now if we mislynch it might be LyLo tmrw if Ile gets modkilled
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:22 PM
ile modkilled sob
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Sticker
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Now Lune def cant modkill you
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:23 PM
lmfao
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modkills are saved for the extremes in these smaller rolelists
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anyways
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ill be fine
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Also sorry for calling you a cunt and giving you the middle finger Mel
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You prob are town thinking on it h
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Caitlin
Also sorry for calling you a cunt and giving you the middle finger Mel
I called you it first lol
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I do feel better about Ile too
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Caitlin
You prob are town thinking on it h
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:24 PM
post tunnel clarity be like
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Mel
I called you it first lol
True but
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I kinda deserved that
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So I suppose I'm fine with pressuring How
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:25 PM
i honestly think this is a strong town position we are in
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despite being close to lylo our scum pool is very small
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
i honestly think this is a strong town position we are in
We are in a great one if we don't go for wide swings smirk
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
i honestly think this is a strong town position we are in
I wouldn't overestimate it
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:26 PM
true two missteps and we are done
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Unless it really is exactly How/Alex I know the pool is def off Unless we include Lily in it
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But I townread Lily
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:26 PM
how alex lily is the main pool for me
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2v6 current. Lynch + wolf kill = 2v4 MyLo we don't no lynch in cuz of the two conf towns. So we have today and tomorrow.
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So yeah How needs to go regardless of what they are
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
how alex lily is the main pool for me
How do u have Cait out of it.
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:28 PM
because if i did
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my pool would be
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alex lily mel cait
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how
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Caitlin
So I suppose I'm fine with pressuring How
I'm straight up voting to kill them. I have no belief they'll pop in to do anything
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I know
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:29 PM
i think mafia gets a kill prob on me
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
my pool would be
Then allow the pool to be wide. I don't want Cait to get off scott free for the interactions
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:29 PM
here
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Which I will go through later
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:29 PM
ok ill say this
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
i think mafia gets a kill prob on me
Over the Cop? No
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:29 PM
today i dont think we should lynch mel or cait
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like ever
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Caitlin
I know
I see your arguments for How, but I do sus Alex more, so I'm not really decided atp. But I do know that How-Alex being tied is def better for yielding info
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:29 PM
everyones in my pool
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Caitlin
I see your arguments for How, but I do sus Alex more, so I'm not really decided atp. But I do know that How-Alex being tied is def better for yielding info
How is straight up baseline
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/01/2023 9:30 PM
i wouldnt go that far
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Any SR would theoretically be lower.
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They need t odie
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Also when did Nge back off of Karcin
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@Caitlin sorry for how i acted before. I realised I never apologised
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Where I do think you're wolf, that was unacceptable
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It's fine, mafia games always gets a bit heated
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It's only natural
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Mel
Also when did Nge back off of Karcin
Idk
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He kinda kept switching his mind on Karcin/Ile slot
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Caitlin
He kinda kept switching his mind on Karcin/Ile slot
As it was a primal push for them for the most part, I really do doubt it was a bus
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But like
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Looking back
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It was kinda sudden
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I'll look back over that as well
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Okay
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I'ma sleep prob
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Because it's kinda late
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sadge
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 04/01/2023 10:38 PM
Hello.
22:38
I am Alex.
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@Lunexia on Osu! I should be prodded here twice I think. I have been inactive for the past few days, I am sorry.
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It seems people suspect me for being mafia. I can try to defend my reasoning behind my actions, but I am not sure what I did was suspicious.
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how paradox 04/02/2023 7:56 AM
eod
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hi alex
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how u doin
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
i think mafia gets a kill prob on me
AnimePigeon 04/02/2023 8:00 AM
If Mafia kills it will be used on me.
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AnimePigeon 04/02/2023 8:33 AM
Not voting (as in moving my vote) yet - as my curious on where How and Alex will vote
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@Gappy what makes you certain on voting Alex?
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AnimePigeon
@Gappy what makes you certain on voting Alex?
i just
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vote with
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cait
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Is she the real cait
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/02/2023 1:00 PM
EoD
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/03/2023 7:55 AM
Day 4 Top
With 6 alive, majority will be 4.
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Lunexia on Osu! pinned a message to this channel. 04/03/2023 7:55 AM
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Hi so was definitely not expecting them to flip red tbch
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/03/2023 7:58 AM
@Alive line MA
07:58
Mb
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Mel
Hi so was definitely not expecting them to flip red tbch
Why not? It was just a coinflip tbh
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Weird that he didn't self pres tho
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/03/2023 7:59 AM
Hi
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Caitlin
Why not? It was just a coinflip tbh
It was yeah but still
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Because he did talk in the chat
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Solve is between Cait and Alex
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/03/2023 7:59 AM
Its not cait
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They dodnt have to
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I think we have 2 votes
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/03/2023 7:59 AM
Go
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Alex
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Not alex
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How
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They wouldbe stayed on alex
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Even if its just to get to lylo
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Then How prob would just get lynched next tho
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So I guess mafia!me could do it any order
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/03/2023 8:00 AM
Yes but ud have
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One more kill
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Mafia can only kill once
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/03/2023 8:02 AM
Oh
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Dudnt know that
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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But the fact ur pointing out maies u feel more towny
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Ngl
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I agree it's prob Alex but we shouldn't hammer yet
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Just incase she's somehow town
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 04/03/2023 8:10 AM
Hello. I have not been paying attention. I just read Penguins messages to see if he claimed, he said that Gappy is innocent, and Ile was almost lynched with Ngekop being one of their voters so those are the only two I think are town.
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
They wouldbe stayed on alex
Not in all worlds
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They had to be townread regardless
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Alright so it’s just Alex ig
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Ello there
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U die tonight
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I slept peacefully
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How do u feel
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As I cant do any action
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Mel
U die tonight
Well shit
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I cant do anyting anyways so
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Why not
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/03/2023 11:44 AM
How us aways scum
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This is crazy
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Ok
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So... Alex seems like last scum?
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Guppy was green checked right?
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I don't think it's ile...
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Unless Mel Or Cait bused how... which I could see them both doing
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LilyBottom 🌺
Unless Mel Or Cait bused how... which I could see them both doing
You think I’d double bus?
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Hilarious
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Imagine
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Mel
You think I’d double bus?
LilyBottom 🌺 04/03/2023 12:51 PM
ok far
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Mel
Alright so it’s just Alex ig
Alex, Goddess of Flowers 04/03/2023 7:21 PM
If you are confirmed then it is Caitlin.
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
If you are confirmed then it is Caitlin.
I'm not confirmed
19:22
But all things considered, I am very much biased. But I do think arguing I'm wolf here is foolish
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers 04/03/2023 7:22 PM
I only know that Ile and Gappy are not Mafia, Gappy is confirmed by a dead Sheriff with a Godfather dead.
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Ile was put into a tie with one of the votes being Ngekop, the Godfather.
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I have not read enough to know any information about the other players.
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IM CLEARED
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hitting da griddy
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6 people alive
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1 mafia left, correct?
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He's wittery hitting the gwiddy
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Gappy
1 mafia left, correct?
Correct
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Ill be honest, it could be most people
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we could get baited like last game and uh
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Mafia is the one who speaks the most
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/04/2023 1:00 AM
I think cait and alex are the best votes...
01:00
maybe how as well?
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/04/2023 7:50 AM
Well
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Im just waiting
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Yawn
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/04/2023 9:30 AM
Ah
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Bugger
09:30
I realy don't know who else to vote
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/04/2023 9:45 AM
Ok... maybe it's cait
09:46
I don't want to be prodded again TwT
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Alex, Goddess of Flowers
Ile was put into a tie with one of the votes being Ngekop, the Godfather.
Me, Mel and Lily voted How, the Consigliere tho
09:53
So with that logic it can only be you
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Gappy
Mafia is the one who speaks the most
Mel 👀
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LilyBottom 🌺
maybe how as well?
You are aware tat
09:53
How is dead already?
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/04/2023 10:00 AM
No ya lol
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I rememberes
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/04/2023 3:58 PM
ok
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sooo
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I am going to work at some point
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so I need my words up
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Caitlin
So with that logic it can only be you
That’s stupid logic as I stated before
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/04/2023 5:35 PM
ok I am going to work
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don't exspect me to be here or what not
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For the sake of a split
18:28
Also cuz I massively dislike what Cait said earlier
18:29
Telling somebody for the sake of X reason (never said what and why that's a reason) it has to be you. As if that ever matters to say, and only stated it primarily to shade them
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We'RE NOT INACTIVE
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YOU'RE IN ACTIVE LUNE
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/05/2023 5:36 AM
Because
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@Lunexia on Osu!
05:36
We already have our lynch
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Or lynches
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We are just waiting
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Damn the deadline is soon
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Alex herself used that logic tho .-.
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She said Ile was cleared because Ngekop voted her
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I was more of disproving that that logic makes sense if she's town; me/you/Lily also all voted a mafia
07:56
Reply function isn't working so I can't reply to Mel
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Shrn have u rver shyed from using a message link
07:58
When
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Wat a poopy excuse
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The function
07:58
Literally isnt working tho
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If Discord is glitchy af how is it my fauly
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Fault
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When I click a msg it doesn't have either reply or copy message link
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Caitlin
When I click a msg it doesn't have either reply or copy message link
wut
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I'm sure you do have it rn
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But yea don't call it a poopy excuse when discord isn't working for me
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You also could've just replied to my response instead
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that surly has to he the single most copium thing ivr rver witnesse
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@Lunexia on Osu! EoD
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/05/2023 8:01 AM
Yes
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/05/2023 10:03 AM
EoD
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/06/2023 7:58 AM
Day 5 Top
With 4 alive, majority is 3. It is now mylo. If the town votes a town member out today, they immediately lose.
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/06/2023 8:01 AM
@Alive line MA
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I messaged first
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Also NOOOO
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MELAN
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@Alive line MA We need to cook up who to vote off.
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Double ping
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Huh
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/06/2023 9:51 AM
Ok.
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So
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It's Cait right?
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Also I thought I was voting Cait yesterday... I have not been paying attention this game
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/06/2023 2:33 PM
Oh right
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@Caitlin your a sussy baka
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Ok I eat now
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Gappy
@Alive line MA We need to cook up who to vote off.
You
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Jk
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Realistically tho you always vote last here
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Because if you vote a townie with someone else earlier, then the 4th party can finish them off
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Lily quick voting is a bad look
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A townie would be more inclined to game solve
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Esp. when the reasons on me yesterday were bad
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Mel kill is interesting; it prob was done as a frame because Mel was sus of me and Gappy not rlly, and Mel was p much conf town too so killing them wouldn't rlly change much
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I do think it's Lily but I'll consider Ile too
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Lily putting How to 3 votes in the How-Alex tie is a p good look still ngl
16:13
Ile actually is less confirmed than I initially thought
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Because Ngekop tried to switch the wagon to me D2 instead of on Ile
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And he only voted Ile after that failed
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How mentioned both Ile and Lily 0 times
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So that isn't that informative
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Altho Ile replaced someone
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So I should check the old slot when I'm back
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But Gappy don't vote anyone yet
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We have the whole day
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@Alive line MA ping so ppl can react to what I wrote so far while I'm away
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/06/2023 4:19 PM
its always lily here either way imo
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and i dont think ties
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should be considered towny
16:20
i never got that
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It could've just been a risk
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You acknowledging that is a + pt for you tho ngl
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But I just lost a LyLo yesterday
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So I'm gonna look over everything first
17:26
Because I don't wanna vote Lily to then lose to you
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/06/2023 6:48 PM
ok lets see, left is me(lily not iron), ile, cait and gappy
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ile is hard pushing me
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thats normal
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gappy is gappy
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and imo their has to be one evil within mel and cait
18:49
mel is dead town
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Cait is me knee jerk reaction
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perhaps it a bad read
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I will look at gappy's words
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gappy was found by invest I think
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ok
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so
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cait or ile
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I don't think I can read either one
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so we lose on miss lynch right?
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becuse then its a 1v1
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ok
19:03
I got to go to work
19:03
I still leaning towards cait so i am voting that
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im unvoting actule
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LilyBottom 🌺
gappy was found by invest I think
Yea
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Gappy is conf town
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So we don't vote Gappy ever here
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LilyBottom 🌺
so we lose on miss lynch right?
Mhm
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It's MyLo
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Imo we don't nolynch tho because then
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Gappy just gets nightkilled I assume
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Which doesn't put us further at all
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I rather have the advantage of us not being at hammer risk
19:37
If it was you, me, Ile and you voted me with Ile being the mafia we would've lost alr so it helps that it's MyLo to avoid things like that
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LilyBottom 🌺
I still leaning towards cait so i am voting that
NOOOO
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Why do you think it's me?
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Asking because I wanna know if I could imagine a townie having those reasons
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One point against Ile is that the Giles wagon would be pure for her to be town
19:39
Which Idk if it's that likely?
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>If Lily continues pushing me tho then I might just have to hope it's Lily and go for her tho
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And Ile did get a small + when she replied to me
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@Gappy What do you think is the solve here?
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honestly?
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No I want a lie
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search for past slips up or errors...
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Caitlin
No I want a lie
ok
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Cait is the mafia
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Only mafia wants lies...
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sorry statistics shows
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Unvote
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It was literally a joke
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You said 'Honestly?'
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So I asked for a lie because
20:22
That's the opposite of honest
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plus i dont think town jokes around when they're losing...
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Are we losing?
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We have a whole game to delve into
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And there's only 1 mafia left
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>Plus it was literally just a small joke bruh
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shouldnt have joke...
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Caitlin
>If Lily continues pushing me tho then I might just have to hope it's Lily and go for her tho
LilyBottom 🌺 04/06/2023 9:28 PM
You lied and I Paired you against Mel.
21:29
Basically you and Mel constantly were fighting for control
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It makes sense that one of you to are mafia
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And I ment to vote you yesterday but forgot ig
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It could also be ile, and if so gg
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But I think Cait is more likely
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And gappy was green checked
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LilyBottom 🌺
You lied and I Paired you against Mel.
When did I lie tho??
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LilyBottom 🌺
Basically you and Mel constantly were fighting for control
Lily has never seen a TvT fight before I guess
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Caitlin
Lily has never seen a TvT fight before I guess
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/07/2023 8:01 AM
Scum usually
08:01
Doesnt fight for control anyways
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Its not where scum wants to be
09:16
If Gappy is fine with it, I'd be fine w voting Lily
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If someone wants to discuss something ping me
11:30
Idk this feels like walking into a trap
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We can discuss it more too
11:35
I just feel like nobody else is really up to discuss stuff which in return also makes me less up to discuss stuff
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:10 PM
Hay
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Fuck did I miss her
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Caitlin
I just feel like nobody else is really up to discuss stuff which in return also makes me less up to discuss stuff
LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:10 PM
Hay I am here
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:11 PM
I still think you Mafia, but ya know
12:11
We should talk about it
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Why do you think it is me
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:12 PM
It's not gappy, so it's you or ile. And well ile have been very town this game (for her at least). You and Mel both seemed to be stealing the game in opposite directions.
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Those are the big one ig
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We both ended up voting How tho
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:13 PM
Who do you think it is?
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:13 PM
Ok fair
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I do think Ile is less cleared than ppl are making it seem
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So I'm not locked in on you yet
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Caitlin
I do think Ile is less cleared than ppl are making it seem
Because I read the chat back
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And Ngekop was rlly trying to get the wagon off of Ile
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And only after that was impossible he voted Ile
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He did state he'd never vote Giles so like
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It's possible he just p much had to
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:14 PM
I am not saying ile is clear, it pretty close in my mind
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Tge annoying thing is
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Is that Mafia or not
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Ile will never not vote me
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So this is a tie at best
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True (luckily for me because that ups odds of the mafia being voted)
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Gappy prob doesn't vote you tho so
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That's interesting
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:16 PM
Ya.. he might not vote at all
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I hope he'd vote as the conf townie in MyLo
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:17 PM
Ok I am going to assume you are town for the purposes of discussion
12:17
In that case it would be ile...
12:17
God I hate this
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I hate LyLo's and MyLo's too
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I also lost this other LyLo I was in
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:19 PM
I could have sworn I voted you yesterday
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Even tho I nearly had the correct solve NOOOO
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You voted Alex
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:19 PM
Ya... but I thought I stitched
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Switched
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Doesn't matter
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I kinda wish you did then I wouldn't have to go through solving a MyLo 💀
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:20 PM
Lol
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Alex probably would have been votes today
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Well unless you were evil ofc
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:21 PM
Idk
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So maybe it's good you didn't switch
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:21 PM
You and Mel being TvT dose not sit right with me
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Because Alex indeed would still have been the vote in 9 of the 10 cases prob
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:22 PM
Ye
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LilyBottom 🌺
You and Mel being TvT dose not sit right with me
TvT arguments happen all the time tho
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:22 PM
It didn't feel TvT
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But idk
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"Feels" is not a great argument
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To me it did and Mel indeed was town so I was right on it!
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:23 PM
Well ofc you would know he was town
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Your maf
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UwU
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No smh
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:23 PM
I also don't like how passive you are Being
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You seem unconsuned
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But ig I am being passive as well
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I'm just only half here
12:24
And I also don't think I rlly am passive?
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Over half the posts this day were mine I feel .-.
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:24 PM
Well ya
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Ig everyone is pretty passive
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Ok... well that's all I got
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Caitlin
I'm just only half here
Because I sadly do have to go rn
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:25 PM
I might back read in a bit
12:25
Day 2 & 3 are prob mainly important
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/07/2023 12:25 PM
Ya
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Because of Ile-Giles tie and How vote out
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Hey Lune
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We're trying to solve .-.
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@LilyBottom 🌺
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I'm back ftr
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@ile, the Goddess of Sloth @Gappy Idk if you 2 are here rn but
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We should just end this at some point
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/07/2023 3:37 PM
Hello
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I just wanna kill lily
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Seems like your mind is made up
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I wish upon a Gappy to appear
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To see his opinion on this
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Oh crystal ball when will Gappy appear
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Zzzzz
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This is slow indeed
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Can we do something
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It'd make this girl very happy
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We're going lily?
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it could be cait leading towards lily though...
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Goodnight and goodbye ma46
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are you evil cait
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Yes but I hammered @Lunexia on Osu! So game ends
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 1:45 AM
AES_cryhands
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Thats it holding grudge against you....
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Smh!!
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 1:56 AM
Me?
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 4:12 AM
So finally
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Invite to join a server
Guild icon
discussion
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 4:46 AM
Post game
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AnimePigeon 04/08/2023 6:29 AM
Oh well
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I thrw
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LilyBottom 🌺
Me?
No... Caitlin Imposter!!!
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I was 3 for 3
06:49
I don’t think I pushed incorrectly at all except for consolidation votes
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Praise me
07:02
I am now ur lord
07:02
Obey my every conmand
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Sorry for fooling you Gappy NOOOO
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Hey cait
07:07
OwO
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Once again sorry for being so rude
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Caitlin
Sorry for fooling you Gappy NOOOO
You are only saying that because you dont want to feel the wrath of me....
07:30
!!!!
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AnimePigeon 04/08/2023 7:51 AM
Game Gets Heated - but shows people care and are interested in the game
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Gappy
You are only saying that because you dont want to feel the wrath of me....
AnimePigeon 04/08/2023 7:52 AM
Let's see it Gappy!
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FEAR THE WRATH OF THE USA
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YOU ALL HAVE DNA, BUT I HAVE USA
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AnimePigeon 04/08/2023 9:28 AM
Meh
09:28
I have a British Accent
09:28
That's gets me no where, anywhere but in the USA lol 😂
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 9:47 AM
Hay, @ile, the Goddess of Sloth can you please stop hard focusing me every game
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 9:47 AM
Never
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Im sorry
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Theres literally
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No one in the game
09:48
I sus
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Ik it can be shtty
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 9:48 AM
Well then getting better
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Idk
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Because Cait was so obviously evil
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And the issue was not that you didn't see that
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It was the fact that I knew we lost becuse you would never consider anyone else
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Never
splat
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I did call that you’d do this 3 days ago
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Lmao
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All g tho
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 9:49 AM
So I just stopped playing
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LilyBottom 🌺
So I just stopped playing
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 9:53 AM
Well
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Ill say a couple things
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I did kinda suspect caitlin but i sidnt have time to iso
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All my times
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Going to another game
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Sadly
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But i thought phone was towny
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And they played well
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 9:54 AM
Idk they were very non comital all game to me at least
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But that's not what matters
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It's not that you did it this game
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It's that you keep doing it
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It makes me want to avoid games your in, because your just going to hard focus me near the end
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
And they played well
You didn’t at all consider why I was shot?
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Over gappy
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The conftown
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Where I was hard pushing cait
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peepostare
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Mel
You didn’t at all consider why I was shot?
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 9:59 AM
Well
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If i played well
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We wouldve won
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peepostare
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So your right
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I played bad
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Ohwell
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Nah ur fine
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Just kinda disappointed tjat I was 3 for 3 and still lost
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But oh wrll
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I really need to work on making my words and cases easily digestible
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Cuz doesn’t matter how correct I am if nobody can follow
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Also the whole “in lylo lynch ur townread” stands
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
We wouldve won
Esoteric Cleric 04/08/2023 10:22 AM
yes you are fucking awful
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Esoteric Cleric
yes you are fucking awful
LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 10:23 AM
Don't be mean.
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Gappy
NOOOO
Rip
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LilyBottom 🌺
Me?
Cait
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Let’s goooo
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Mel
I don’t think I pushed incorrectly at all except for consolidation votes
You never pushed incorrectly period
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Lol
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AnimePigeon
Game Gets Heated - but shows people care and are interested in the game
YES
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LilyBottom 🌺
Because Cait was so obviously evil
No
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LilyBottom 🌺
It was the fact that I knew we lost becuse you would never consider anyone else
Not really if you were lynched before im p sure ile wouldve voted alex before cait
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LilyBottom 🌺
It makes me want to avoid games your in, because your just going to hard focus me near the end
Feeling this
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Mel
Just kinda disappointed tjat I was 3 for 3 and still lost
:(
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Damn this is fr frustrating af lmao im sorry mel
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Esoteric Cleric
yes you are fucking awful
WTF
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?????
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This guy came out of nowhere in a game he wasnt even in to say this?!
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Esoteric Cleric 04/08/2023 10:30 AM
hey
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Anyways guys
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Esoteric Cleric 04/08/2023 10:30 AM
fuck you too
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gohn
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Ngekop
Not really if you were lynched before im p sure ile wouldve voted alex before cait
LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 10:30 AM
I don't see how that is relevant?
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BRO YOU DONT POP IN A RANDOM GAME YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TO INSULT A PLAYER
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LilyBottom 🌺
I don't see how that is relevant?
Im saying it wasnt only bc ile’s bias against you
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Bc she wouldve voted anyone else alive (unclear) over cait
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Ngekop
Bc she wouldve voted anyone else alive (unclear) over cait
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 10:31 AM
Cait was bottom
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Of my list
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 10:31 AM
I was talking about just the last day.
10:32
But ya
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Exactly
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LilyBottom 🌺
I was talking about just the last day.
Fair
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LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 10:32 AM
I would have voted Alex to probably
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Alex and Cait were my last to suses
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I'm so mad I didn't vote caut
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I was sure I did
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Ok but tbf
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The only reason town had a chance
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Was because bg randomly thought he was rb’d lmao
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Esoteric Cleric
fuck you too
Who tf are you
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You woulda done worse probably
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What mel said
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Esoteric Cleric 04/08/2023 10:35 AM
fuck you coal burner
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Esoteric Cleric
fuck you coal burner
LilyBottom 🌺 04/08/2023 10:36 AM
What kind of insult is this?
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You do realize that this kind of thing only has weigh if they do burn caol
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And are embarrassed about that fact?
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Esoteric Cleric
yes you are fucking awful
Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 10:40 AM
What the hell bro 💀
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No need to be a bitch idk man
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Thats my job
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One more and I’ll probs mute or ban idc
10:43
No need for this
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Acting like ur 8
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LilyBottom 🌺
What kind of insult is this?
Lmaooooo
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Lunexia on Osu!
No need to be a bitch idk man
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:54 AM
Lunes a cute btch tho
11:54
Unlike how he was
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 11:54 AM
I am so glad I got to press the ban button
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😎
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Lunexia on Osu!
I am so glad I got to press the ban button
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:56 AM
Why was he so out for my blood anyways lmfao
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LilyBottom 🌺
Because Cait was so obviously evil
Also Lily: Unvoted icecoldkiisu
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Y'all are just jealous you won when me, Ngekop and How did manage to win
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:56 AM
Either way
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This mafia team popped off
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Also karcin
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Got all mafia correct in his conf
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But i didnt trust it
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Well he didnt find how
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But he said nge cait before he left
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I believe
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Mel
You didn’t at all consider why I was shot?
Killing you was a rlly good play from me because I figured the 3 townies weren't rlly the type to draw much conclusions from the kill
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:57 AM
i also was very busy
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I do wish I just bussed Ngekop tho
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:57 AM
If mel was alive
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There was a good chance
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Cait lost
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Because I was constantly on the edge of doing so
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And we also didn't rlly
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Agree at all in maf chat
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:58 AM
Me when i sign up for mafia games expecting since im the fourth host for me not to do alot since im a newbie
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
If mel was alive
Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 11:58 AM
Thats why mel was killed, but you apparently didnt even think abt that Why
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I did play well in F4 imo
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It felt like I was the only one 'solving'
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When I wasn't even solving
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:58 AM
Reality in betrayal: solo coins items lucks alliances and actions while two people try to break the game
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
This mafia team popped off
Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 11:59 AM
Mafia had an auto win, if @Middle Man 5k didn't put in an insane clutch BG kill
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Reality in betrayal: solo coins items lucks alliances and actions while two people try to break the game
Ikr
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Got all mafia correct in his conf
U know who else did
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And pushed
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And was ignored
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 11:59 AM
KEKW KEKW KEKW
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I dont listen to melons
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Im racist
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 11:59 AM
Texan*
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peepostare
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Caitlin
Killing you was a rlly good play from me because I figured the 3 townies weren't rlly the type to draw much conclusions from the kill
Yeah it was the obvious kill. You did good
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Lunexia on Osu!
Mafia had an auto win, if @Middle Man 5k didn't put in an insane clutch BG kill
Which is so@dumb
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Ppl listen to me ffs
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Cuz fr fr
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Lunexia on Osu! 04/08/2023 12:03 PM
Mel best player
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Sticker
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Ho Ho You're a Hoe
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howdy
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ile, the Goddess of Sloth
Got all mafia correct in his conf
After voting tracker d1 💀
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Ngekop
After voting tracker d1 💀
ile, the Goddess of Sloth 04/08/2023 12:45 PM
Yeah
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Ngekop
After voting tracker d1 💀
Yeah
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Tbf karcin was fine overall
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It was just funny his eod1
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Karcin's EoD1 was awful
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SoD2 also
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But not wolfy awful
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Just awful
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Describe awful
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This is the description
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Lmaooooo
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karcin
Describe awful
Awful as in the plays you made were far from helpful in any way of looking
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Also Giles was kinda obvtown imo
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Made yourself very easy to push
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That ML could've been avoidable
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Very hard to push against
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Giles flip was stupid looking back
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And the Giles wagon was pure too
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Oh that's funny as
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Mel
Awful as in the plays you made were far from helpful in any way of looking
I agree to that. But I never claimed otherwise. I was true even in being anti-town.
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And only you were able to discern that.
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karcin
And only you were able to discern that.
Yeah well I think there weren't too many town that did effective critical thinking
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And my explanation skills are lacking
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But ended up having your slot live
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So all is well
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Mel
And my explanation skills are lacking
You articulate quite well, I think.
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karcin
You articulate quite well, I think.
Oh, thank you sm. I try to do as much, but games like this make me question that.
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Caitlin
Also Giles was kinda obvtown imo
You justified my paint vote yourself.
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Giles voted Paint because he was the countervote
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You weren't the countervote
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There's a clear difference there
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You don't understand. If I hadn't voted Paint, then, Giles could have died.
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I wonder how Giles could have
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💀
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Caitlin
Click to see attachment 🖼️
You are being unfair there
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Here's how
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Caitlin
I wonder how Giles could have
.
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AnimePigeon 04/08/2023 2:16 PM
That semi coordinated vote was strange
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Karcin tr’d giles last sec bc of his rxn to the bw
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So he voted whoever was an option outside bc he didnt want to lynch a tr of his
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You still don't vote a claimed PR
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So acting like Giles and Karcin voting Paint is the same is just ridiculous
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He didnt read that part
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Which is awful i agree
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Caitlin
So acting like Giles and Karcin voting Paint is the same is just ridiculous
Who acted like that
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You?
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But okay
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Not really
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Just pretend you didn't play awful D1 Ig
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Caitlin
You?
Where exactly?
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Karcin never pushed on giles d2
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karcin
You justified my paint vote yourself.
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Caitlin
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Karcin always tr’d giles since 1 minute after this
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Caitlin
Just pretend you didn't play awful D1 Ig
I never did pretend so.
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Why are we even arguing about stuff we all agree on
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Well clearly we don't agree on what happened D1
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Karcin’s reads were fine; karcin’s performance was bad
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I think we all can agree there
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Caitlin
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If my vote on paint can be redeemed even a little bit, you gave the justification for that yourself.
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karcin
Here's how
how paradox 04/08/2023 2:21 PM
noce
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also
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gg
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thanks catlin for uh
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how paradox 04/08/2023 6:33 PM
clutching up
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how's messages are for some reason 4 hours apart
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how paradox 04/08/2023 8:10 PM
get out
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gg ez
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